Vinyl lovers I must be crazy

Inna, the 8000-C and my Grado Sonata are a match made in heaven. They have incredible synergy; the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. If you research the 8000-C, you will discover it has an exceptional phono section.

Since it was gathering dust, I decided to put it to use; was I surprised. The setup I described comes under "weird true and freaky", but it works.

The subtle musical nuances I hear on playback of my treasured vinyl, enable me to return to that lounge where we played our favorite tune, over and over; or looked across the sea at sunset.

This magic carpet ride continues all night long. I used two baluns and Cat-5 to run a signal to the bedroom. Nothing evokes emotions like music properly reproduced. It enables one to experience feelings of times past that put a glow in their hearts, and a smile on their face; the music never stops here.

Orpheus 10,
Inna was being facetious; no need to blow the smoke...

Actureus, inna can speak for inna, and if you like to play with things, why don't you get an erector set.

Inna, while perusing the vinyl, I came across "Shakti" with John McLaughlin, and "John McLaughlin-Electric Guitarist", both highly recommended; although I'm sure you have them.
I also noticed hints of "Visions of the Emerald Green Beyond" on both LP's.

Enjoy the music.

Yes, I do have them. Try A Handful Of Beauty by John with Shakti. Indojazz at its best.

Orpheus 10,
I don't know what an erector set is so perhaps you can share your experience with it for us. And if you're done waxing poetic about your 8000-c, whatever it is, why don't you stop hijacking the thread and take your musical tastes exchange to another thread devoted to the subject, or use PM? That'd be nice of you.

Actusreus, since they say, "Ignorance is bliss", I'm sure you are one happy soul.

Let us all be happy souls.

03-23-11: Inna
From across the Atlantic at any hour. Orpheus10, this sounds strange to me, really.
Inna (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

No wonder your always suggesting overseas dealers. However you have the site marked as though your in the USA. It must need updated. Then your overseas recommendations will make more sense to other readers.

I am in the US. No, not always do I suggest overseas dealers. However, for some reason I don't like to pay one and a half or double price for the same thing just to feed a few more people who insist on that. I advocate a free trade, and that means free.

Inna,OK.

Well, after years of using cd's, I went back to analog, partially because of nostalgia and because most cd's simply hurt my ears. The harshness of digital was annoying to me. I purchased a used Dual tt and started to enjoy again. My theory was to invest as little as possible just in case it was a passing phase with me. That was my first mistake. Now four tt 's later, I'm quite happy with my Nottingham Horizon SE. The Notty is my main table with a Rega rb 250 that's modified and a Benz MC Gold . This entire tt investment was under $1500.00 and has brought back all the good sound I remembered and more because the quality is so much better. Had I bought my choice table in the first place, I likely would have saved some money.

Bought my first Turntable in 1982. Wished there was a format that had zero surface-noise, because the pops and clicks were so distracting. JUMPED into cd format without regret until last year when I impulse purchased a Dual 1264 I found on Craigs list. Bought a couple of used lp's, and played them through my main rig at the time. I still find the surface noise irritating when it rears-up, but far less irritating than listening to a cd that was digitally mastered by someone that had little or no interest in preserving the dynamics of the original recording. For me;to vinyl, or not to vinyl depends largely upon whether or not a
quality rendering (and I DO think "Digital" is rendering)is available. I don't think you need to spend a couple grand on a turntable/cartridge to figure out whether or not it's your thing. I now play records on a JVC QL-A7 with an Ortofon mm
cartridge and am very happy with it(paid a hundred bucks for it-including the cartridge). The cd player I'm using is the Marantz SA-7s1 and I'm very happy with it also.

I wonder what he will have when he gets older? Link[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4E_BrGruCA&feature=related]

Bobheinatz,
1. Your '70's system was simpler, and life was simpler. This generally kept us happier.
2. I play CDs, but I listen to LPs. I don't need to debate which sounds better or has more potential. To listen to an LP, I need to maintain it, I need to be there to lift the arm at the end of it, and I hold a 12" square piece of artwork/tracklist in my hands, or pass it around to my guests, while it plays. CDs, and the increasingly compressed digital media that followed, are all about convenience, both for the buyer and seller, and earbuds are not about socializing around the music! With a CD on, I cook, or drive, or wander off. The medium IS the message.
3. I do maintain a restored 1976 Tandberg receiver with Denon turntable and JBL speakers, and a 1978 Kenwood TOTL system with KD750 deck and Ohm speakers, to remind me of the good old days. They remain very engaging, but not as engaging as my Rega decks with current cartridges through modern tube gear with high-efficiency speakers.
4. I don't enjoy listening to cassettes much, but I strongly prefer the tactile mechanical tape recording process versus "programming" my CDR, or my phone, or my coffee maker, or any of my other modern "conveniences." See #1.

Morgenholz,

I enjoyed reading your response. I also did own a Tandberg receiver back on the 80's and it was real nice. Progress is nice but sometimes I crave for simplier times like the 70's.

Bobheinatz, I have bought two "modern" systems in the past few years: a Quicksilver Line/Phono/Mini Mites and a Primaluna ProLogue Three/Sevens. Both have on/off switches, input selector, and volume knob. No remotes. Manufacturers can keep their feature creep.

Csgreene, I'm glad you said it and not me.

I don't get many, if any, pops and clicks on my vinyl. The table does have to be set up correctly, and the records clean, but, then you don't get the digital glare that you do from CD's that have only a fraction of the information that the vinyl does.

No "sample rate" on vinyl. If it was an analog recording, you get it all, and if it was a digital recording, you get more of it than the 44.1 sample rate of CD. HiRez files can get pretty darn close through a good DAC, or a very good SACD. Otherwise, no contest.

My hearing is not as good now. That might be part of the problem. Also nostalgia is always deceptive. Digital is an approximation. Ones and zeros are always ones and zeros. A digital signal is never going to be a musical wave. Analog is the closest thing to the event. Digital is so dry and clinical due to this "faked" approximation. That contributes to listener fatigue. Digital is just boring. Even an investment of 700 dollars in a good used table and new cartridge will most likely surprise you.

I forgot to mention, my table is in the shop (Thorens 125mk2) and the other table is not finished (Sota star vacuum table) I have been listening to digital and I'm about to loose my mind!! I miss my table!! I can sit all day and listen to record after record and not normally get fatigued. Take the time to read good books on records, create a short list of twenty or so records and seek them out at a good record show. Don't over pay. I one time had a list of ten going into a show: I got ALL of them at that one show! Happy hunting!

Progress is nice but sometimes I crave for simplier times like the 70's.

Well, I just bought a 71 El Camino street rod today with a big block 454, flowmasters, Holley 650, Dual exhaust chrome headers, you get the idea.

Why did I do this?

Craving simpler times. I have had it with sensors, check engine lights, and 400 things in a car that can go wrong that don't even exist in a classic muscle car.

I don't want anything in between the gas tank, and the carb.. other than a fuel filter and a fuel pump. No oxygen sensors or any other garbage. No computers running the injectors or timing the ignition.

Sounds like a good stereo system right?

I want a simple manual choke.. so I can control the mix. Simple.

Now.. what kind of tape deck to I put in this beast?

For those that made the switch back to playing records are you listening more now? Enjoying your system more? What type of vinyl dollar outlay did it cost to reach vinyl nirvana?

I listen way more, almost daily for a minimum of two record albums (4 sides) and even more many times. I go back to digital and I'm like... honey, where's the aspirin ? No comparo, imo. Analog way more fun and enjoyable to listen to than digital. $$$ outlay has been expensive...probably close to $20K for me (table, arm, cart, phono stage) excluding vinyl purchases when I jumped back into analog since leaving it back in 1983. I have probably spent over $15K on Ebay since Feb 2011 for NM or sealed condition for my OOP LP favorites from the day.

Bob, the reality is that if you even have a slightest hankering for getting back into vinyl, simply DO IT. Lay out a couple grand on a decent table, arm, phono stage and cables and some new/used LPs and just go for it. You are in good company and you will not regret it. Let me know if you want some suggestions for gear in that range (Rega, Music Hall, Shelter, Ortofon, PS Audio, Lehman, etc.)
Steve

When I write in these forums, I listen to CDs. When I put the computer down, I put a record on and I am in my happy zone

I gave up on vinyl in 1985 and returned a few years back. To me it's just another format, much like SACD or DVD-A. No format is better than the other they are just different. Vinyl sure can be tweaked. What you gonna do with digital change a few wires...LOL

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As a kid I had a general electric tape recorder and I would record songs off of a clock radio onto cheap drugstore cassette tapes. The quality must surely have been horrendous, but to me it was magical. I occasionally get the same joy out of my current stereo system (upper mid-fi and hi-fi) but cannot confidently say the experience is better than I had listening to that old tape recorder. When I'm older I think I will have fond memories of my current system and the time I spend with my kids listening to vinyl and digital media sources.