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Turntable resonance normal?

Hi folks. I've noticed that with my Soundsmith cartridge in the groove without the table spinning if I tap on the tonearm, plinth, or HRS base I hear a thump with volume set at normal listening level thru the speakers. Not real loud but there. I don't know if this should happen given my setup. VPI Prime Signature with the Fatboy arm sits on an HRS base which sits on an Adona rack. No noise when stylus is out of groove. Am I expecting too much or am I missing something? Any input is helpful, thanks. Joe
joeyfed55
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mijostyn
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Joeyfed, yes this is a problem shared by most fixed plinth turntables except perhaps the real massive ones like the big Kuzma. Sound in the room is transmitted to the base and picked up by the tonearm. You can thump all day long on a suspended SOTA and you will not hear a thing. If you tap lightly on an SME you won't hear anything. Same is true of a Basis and I suspect an Air Force. But, only the SOTA comes in at a reasonable price. 
In most cases the noise that gets through is greatly attenuated. I am not sure if it makes a real difference as I have only used suspended turntables for decades. 
joeyfed55 OP
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Thank you all. There is no noise from the Adona rack. Music sounds great, think I'll just enjoy. That's what I want most from this hobby. Respect.
cd318
2,636 posts
 
I'd say it's normal, but the less of a thump and the quicker the decay the better.

A record player plinth could be said to be a bit like loudspeaker cabinet with respect to resonances. Impossible to eradicate totally but certainly desirable to control.
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bdp24
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Joe, why would you expect to NOT hear a thump when you tap on the arm or plinth? The cartridge is rigidly attached to the arm (hopefully!), the arm to the plinth (likewise). You hear a thump when you tap the HRS base because the table is a non-suspended design. Tables with a floating sub-chassis (such as VPI's earlier HW-19) provide a degree of isolation between their outer base/frame (and therefore the surface it sits on) and the floating sub-chassis, the feet on non-suspended tables generally don't provide much isolation between the table's plinth and whatever it is sitting on.

What you ARE entitled to expect is to not hear a thump when you tap on the surface the HRS is sitting on. The HRS is supposed to provide isolation between what it sits on and what is sitting on it. If it doesn't, look for a product that does. I recommend and use the Townshend Audio Seismic Pods. VERY effective isolation. The IsoAcoustics GAIA isolator has found favor amongst VPI owners, as they have testified to on the VPI Forum.

lewm
13,030 posts
 
To paraphrase an ancient borscht belt comic’s punch line, so don’t tap it.
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stringreen
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sounds normal to me. 
joeyfed55 OP
83 posts
 
I also hear a similar thump tapping on the plinth and base. What do you think about that mc?
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millercarbon
12,531 posts
 
Uh, yeah, if you tap on the tone arm you will hear a thump. In fact if you don't then something is wrong.
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