Thick or Thin


For those orchestra lovers out there, how do you prefer the texture regarding the sound of an orchestra in a recording? Do you like to hear every instrument in it’s place or do you prefer to hear the congealed sound of the orchesra as a whole as it is heard in most of the hall?

rvpiano

I prefer the orchestra be presented like it was recorded and thankfully I have the system that does that that but it will never replace being at the actual performance. That's an impossibility 

I like to hear the individual choirs and solos but I also want the sound of the orchestra uncongealed with detail and texture.

I like to be able to place things. That said, once I was pretty far back for a concert and it was all blended but just lovely.

Sometimes I like like – steak – potato – green beans

Sometimes I like – beef stew.

And they're both equally "real."

The recording trading-off set of choices  dictate how we hear it...

Our system/room is able to convey them well  or not so well ,  in their own acoustic set of trade-off parameters "translation" for our specific ears...

There is no original event, only the located place were each spectators seat...

Only the trade-off choices of the recording engineer...

Only our system/room and listening location in it translating  the recording...

All is acoustics choices...

No original event ...Only multiple acoustic possibilities....

Or the only privileged original event is to be seat beside  one of the playing musician but what about the others?

I will call high fidelity the recording and high translation the way my system/room convey it to my ears....

 
 

 

 

I like to hear the orchestra as close to what I hear in a live performance as possible, not “congealed.” At symphonic concerts we sit in orchestra level seats 12-18 rows back, just above stage level. We get a good sense of instrument placement, both for sections (e.g., woodwinds, brass, cellos, violins, percussion, etc.) and for soloists and solo parts by orchestra members. Our audio system and listening room can’t match the acoustics of a  hall, but on good recordings the imaging gives a good sense of width and depth, while allowing us to sense the location of soloists and orchestra sections.
 

The congealed effect, in my opinion and experience is a function of your seating position in a hall and the venue’s acoustics. Sitting in the back of the orchestra level under a balcony is typically a place where it happens. Also in corners, too close to side walls, too high in a multi-level venue. We visit three different concert halls, one our favorite, and the acoustic characteristics of each are noticeably different from the others. One is just more clear, almost regardless of position, and with a wider, deeper stage and hall provides a better sense of separation between instrument groups. It also has curved side walls and ceilings. 

For chamber music we attend a smaller hall that seats about 400, sitting 9 rows back. The acoustics in this hall are excellent. On good recordings of chamber music (and small jazz groups) our listening room and audio system, while again not recreating the recording venue’s acoustics, make it easier to sense the separation and location of instruments, including their height, than when listening to orchestra recordings.