The Big Misconception About Electricity


This vid goes quite a ways down the road to explaining why:

1)  Power cords make a not so subtle difference.

2) Cable elevators should not be looked at askance.

 

Regards, barts

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Everyone at this party was fully vaccinated. 50 out of a 100 caught the new variant. Supposedly.

2 weeks to slow the spread guys, hang in there. Lol

I love you guys ... a wealth of crap reposted from conspiracy theory people .... even your beloved Robert Malone, a legend in his own mind:


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

 

Dr. Christiane Northrup, University of Vermont College of Medicine
Assistant Clinical Professor of Obstetrics & Gynecology (1982–2001),
physician, three-time New York Times bestselling author - Nothing to do with infectious disease, virology, vaccines, or epidemiology


Dr. Richard Urso, MD Anderson Cancer Center assistant professor (1993–
2005), Chief of Orbital Oncology, scientist - Nothing to do with infectious disease, virology, vaccines, or epidemiology

 

Now, most of these people made these statements back in the Great Barrington Declaration ... in October 2020, before we even had vaccines for Covid, before we knew how well they would work, before Delta variant, before myocarditis rates in infected far exceeding that from vaccines except in a small specific age/sex group.

 

A few of them are doubling down, as Academics do, but now they are saying it is about ethics, as their every shred of evidence is showing that vaccines work, especially with high coverage. They don't eliminate other public health measures, but they are effective part of an overall method.

 

1) KARY MULLIS invented PCR

2) KARY MULLIS did not say it could not detect a virus

3) Many people who invent things have no idea what their invention will eventually be used for. Did Tesla know we would be using wireless to argue about him? ..... don't be daft and don't assume KARY MULLIS was daft as well.

PCR was not invented to detect viruses, however, it is just a tool, and some people just as smart at KARY MULLIS were able to take the tool and adapt it to perform a function that it was not originally intended to do ..... just like the billions of time something similar has been done.

 

Leaky vaccines work by enhancing host immunity to a particular pathogen, without necessarily blocking or slowing viral replication. The result is that infected but vaccinated individuals have extended survival, allowing highly virulent pathogen that would normally reach an evolutionary dead-end in a dead host, can transmit. The evolutionary consequences of high virulence are thus reduced and these pathogens can be selectively favored as a result of leaky vaccination. 

 

Yuviarora you are an amateur at this. Your research and analytic skills are weak. For one, you do realize what this says right? The alternative to the vaccine is just let people die.

However, people are not chickens. When people get sick, we isolate them, and we cure them, or keep them isolated, at least in the case of infectious disease. We were already greatly extending lifetimes through treatment if people were infected, but those people are in isolation. Vaccines reduce viral load, reduce people catching it, and reduce transmission due to reduced viral loads. The mathematics behind replication in humans is much different from chickens. Pretty much every vaccine ever invented is leaky. Most seriously leaky. How successful are flu vaccines?

 

This is like arguing with flat-earth supporters.

 

How long before the maskholes start promoting Magic Dirt baths and washing your baby with Borax?  Heaven help us if the practice of using cow dung catches on.

This is how civilizations and great societies collapse. Stupidity writ large. 

All the best,
Nonoise

Norway reports at least 50 Omicron cases linked to one office Christmas party

 

People stand on the sidewalk and ride scooters in Oslo.

People out on the streets in Oslo. Authorities in Norway say at least 50 people in the capital have been infected with the Omicron variant after a Christmas party.

(Naina Helén Jama / Associated Press)

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COPENHAGEN — 

At least 50 people in and around Norway’s capital have been infected with the Omicron coronavirus variant, and the cases are connected to a Norwegian company’s Christmas party in an Oslo restaurant, officials said Thursday.

“More cases are expected. Effective tracing is being done to limit transmission routes and prevent major outbreaks,” the Oslo Municipality said in a statement.

The Norwegian Institute of Public Health said that those affected live in Oslo and surrounding municipalities, and “the infection detection team in Oslo has contacted the municipalities concerned to start infection detection.”

The government agency said that there was “a high vaccination coverage” in the group, adding that overall “more than 50 cases” have been recorded in Norway. The country’s first two cases were announced Monday.

 

FILE - James Robson, a biomedical engineering graduate student, holds a swab and specimen vial in the new COVID-19, on-campus testing lab, Thursday, July 23, 2020, at Boston University in Boston. The United States has improved its surveillance system for tracking new coronavirus variants such as omicron, boosting its capacity by tens of thousands of samples since early 2021. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa, File)

CALIFORNIA

California confirms nation’s first Omicron variant coronavirus case

Dec. 1, 2021

On Wednesday, the city of Oslo urged people who visited two restaurants in the capital to be tested. One reportedly was where the Christmas party was held.

Much remains unknown about the new variant, including whether it is more contagious, as some health authorities suspect, whether it makes people more seriously ill and whether it can thwart vaccines.

@kitechaser yes, almost all the Omicron cases that have been found in the United States so far are among Fully vaccinated individuals.

The vaccine is failing, if it was ever even working to begin with.

The CEO of Moderna said that his scientists have told him that none of the vaccines are likely to be effective against this variant.

Hold onto your hats.

No that cannot be true.. Epidemiology is not politic...Circulating rumors is not a good idea....

@yuviarora what? Is that true, all omicron cases are fully vaccinated?

 

I am not anti-mask....

I am not anti vaxx...

But there is a meaningful way to use vaccination...

And there is meaningful way to treat patients...

And Fauci fail on this 2 counts for reason easy to understand WHEN you know about him and his careeer... Read....

That is my point....

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a smarter more compassionate puppet ? it shouldn’t be political but it is…and guess what ? death rates higher in counties Dotard won….. Gonna take more than two Nobel prizes to erase Faux brainwashing….

 

My dumb red state cousin is dead at 47… man did she own the Libs that last maskless nite on the town…

I am an insulin dependent robot, let me know how Donnie did saving me from big Pharma

and for a moment Chlorox was so popular…

he did say…grab em by the bleach….

I am not a Robot Republiklan 

please dont make this crisis politic...

This has nothing to do with politic...

NOTHING...

It is corporations running all the health system.... For profit...

Associating people who think with mass of  anti mask and Trump supporter is totally stupid...

Biden is like Trump a puppet...

Guess why ?

 

the anti mask crowd don’t mind sharing…. everything they know and the viral load they blow…

 

I am not a mask wearing robot, just a selfish pile of carbon

Herman Cain died of Stage 4 Colon Cancer that had spread to his liver.

Facts are facts are facts...

All the Omicron cases... have been found in fully vaxxed people. Enjoy your future bout with covid. Funny how the vaccines only work in summer :)

Do you know why the number of deaths is the greatest in the US?

I know...

If you want to know inform yourself about the protocol used and FORCED to be used in all US hospital by Fauci...

a clue : remdesivir....Dont try to read that in any official media ....Guess why?

a clue: censorship

well the variants are sure having their way with the anti vax herd immunity crowd…

dead is dead…lots of dead people….

I am not a robot but i still like Herman Cain, dead or alive

well the variants are sure having their way with the anti vax herd immunity crowd…

dead is dead…lots of dead people….

I am not a robot but i still like Herman Cain, dead or alive

@mahgister @yuviarora  he doesn't care about any of this. He's not inyerested in any new information, he will just ignore everything and jump to a different argument. 

Your Peter Stoilov cannot be objective. the survival of his laboratory and his job depend for his money COMPLETELY of Fauci and Gates money...

If he said anything negative he lost all...

Montagnier, nevermind his age, in this crisis is at the front of this crisis, from the beginning, he is in close contact DAILY with all the scientists in this field... Guess why?

He is the FIRST who spell the truth about the fact now almost proved,  that the virus was artificially modified, and we know now  with Fauci money and benediction...It lack only the necessary official inquiry...It seems that you know nothing about this crisis...

Do you read news?

Have you read about the remdesivir protocol?

Do you think that this fact will be presented in American TV?

You make me laugh...

You despise people because they are so called " ignorant" or because they are so called  "failure" like Tesla....Look in a mirror....

Luc Montagnier is 89, and quite possibly no longer player with a full deck, and certainly is not applying good science.

Mareks Disease

Leaky vaccines promote the transmission of more virulent virus

Posted January 14, 2016

Not all vaccines prevent infection. Some, known as leaky vaccines, prolong host survival or reduce disease symptoms without preventing viral replication and transmission. Although leaky vaccines provide anti-disease benefits to vaccinated individuals, new research by CIDD’s Andrew Read, David Kennedy and colleagues at the Avian Oncogenic Virus Group in the United Kingdom, and The University of New England in Australia, has demonstrated that leaky vaccines can make the situation for unvaccinated individuals worse. Leaky vaccines work by enhancing host immunity to a particular pathogen, without necessarily blocking or slowing viral replication. The result is that infected but vaccinated individuals have extended survival, allowing highly virulent pathogen that would normally reach an evolutionary dead-end in a dead host, can transmit. The evolutionary consequences of high virulence are thus reduced and these pathogens can be selectively favored as a result of leaky vaccination. 

 

The researchers tested whether leaky vaccines could be a potential driver in the evolution of higher virulence in a system where evolution to high virulence of a virus infecting chickens has been rapidly observed since the introduction of vaccines in the 1980s.  The virus known as Marek’s disease virus, infects chickens worldwide, and with its climbing levels of virulence has been costing the industry over $2 billion/year in recent years.  Using an experimental setup to infect vaccinated and unvaccinated birds with viruses of different levels of virulence, Read and colleagues found that although vaccines reduced the concentration of virus shed by birds, by extending survival, vaccinated individuals shed cumulatively higher amounts of highly virulent virus. Similar results came from individuals that received maternal antibodies: immunity extended survival and increased the amount of the most virulent virus that could then be transmitted to unvaccinated individuals. These highly virulent strains that survived in vaccinated or immune-protected individuals were then shown to be lethal in unvaccinated individuals. The results suggest that disease interventions that aim to prevent disease symptoms without preventing transmission can have dangerous evolutionary consequences and need to be considered in cases with imperfect vaccines. The findings were published this month in PLoS Biology and can be accessed here. The video press release is also available here.

 

Synopsis written by Jo Ohm.

 

Synopsis written by Jo Ohm.

 

 

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses

By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.

 

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The current debate over vaccinating toddlers is small potatoes compared to the potential risks of using “leaky” vaccines to prevent disease.

According to a new study published today in the scientific journal PLOS Biology, some types of vaccines could allow more virulent versions of a virus to survive, putting those who are unvaccinated at greater risk of severe illness.

 

To understand this, it’s necessary to examine the difference between “perfect” vaccines and “leaky” ones.

Perfect vaccines are so-named because they mimic the perfect immunity that humans naturally develop after having certain childhood disease.

“When a vaccine works perfectly, as do the childhood vaccines for smallpox, polio, mumps, rubella and measles, it prevents vaccinated individuals from being sickened by the disease, and it also prevents them from transmitting the virus to others,” said Andrew Read, an author of the study and an Evan Pugh professor of biology and entomology and Eberly professor in biotechnology at Penn State University.

Read More: Vaccines Could Be the Answer for Treating Rheumatoid Arthritis »

 

What We Learned from Chickens

Enter the chickens.

Read was studying vaccines that could combat malaria when he got interested in Marek’s disease, a highly contagious viral disease that affects chickens.

It’s a form of herpes that is found in chicken dander and is more virulent than the Ebola virus, Read said.

After experiments done in a specialized pathogen-containment facility at The Pirbright Institute in the United Kingdom, the researchers concluded that the vaccines developed to combat Marek’s disease were imperfect or leaky.

“These vaccines also allow the virulent virus to continue evolving precisely because they allow the vaccinated individuals, and therefore themselves, to survive,” said Venugopal Nair, who led the research team. He is the head of the Avian Viral Diseases program at The Pirbright Institute.

These less-than-perfect vaccines create a “leaky” barrier against the virus. Vaccinated individuals may get sick but have less severe symptoms, but the virus survives long enough to transmit to others, which allows it to survive and spread throughout a population.

“Our research demonstrates that the use of leaky vaccines can promote the evolution of nastier ‘hot’ viral strains that put unvaccinated individuals at greater risk,” Nair said.

Marek’s disease used to be a minor ailment that did little harm to chickens in the 1950s, but the virus has grown stronger and today is capable of killing all the unvaccinated birds in poultry flocks, sometimes within 10 days.

But since nearly every chicken in agricultural production throughout the world is vaccinated, Marek’s is a relatively minor problem today.

Read More: Vaccine for High Blood Pressure May Be in the Works »

 

Preventing More-Virulent Virus Strains

Marek’s is not the only nasty disease out there. The virus causing avian influenza can be even deadlier.

“The most virulent strain of avian influenza now decimating poultry flocks worldwide can kill unvaccinated birds in just under three days,” Read said, because the vaccine against avian influenza is a leaky one.

“In the United States and Europe, the birds that get avian influenza are culled, so no further evolution of the virus is possible,” Read said.

Culling is a more expensive process than using a leaky vaccine, he said. But it’s safer.

“Instead of controlling the disease by culling infected birds, farmers in Southeast Asia use vaccines that leak — so evolution of the avian influenza virus toward greater virulence could happen,” he added.

Some human deaths from avian influenza virus have been reported in China.

“We now are entering an era when we are starting to develop next-generation vaccines that are ‘leaky’ because they are for diseases that do not do a good job of producing strong natural immunity — diseases like HIV and malaria,” Read said.

What’s the answer?

Rigorous testing and vigilant monitoring of next-generation vaccines to prevent the evolution of more-virulent strains of viruses will help.

Read sees this as crucial to the current attempt to develop an Ebola vaccine. He notes that secondary techniques can help when using leaky vaccines, such as insecticide-treated bed nets for prevention of malaria.

 

 

Are you an adult?

 do you think that factcheker KNOW MORE  than ALL the scientist i just cited ?

Your analysis here is childish...

you are not with Ted Denney here in a discussion about  cables....

 

 Do i need to educate you?

For exemple you claim that there is no evidence that the vaccination create variant...It is not the vaccination which create variants, for reason linked to evolutive mutating virus it is the POLITIC OF MASSIVE VACCINATION that create the variants...

Read Geert van Den Bosch 

p.s. due try to get your facts straight:  https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

 

Luc Montagnier, claimed that vaccinations were creating variants even though there is 1) Not a shred of evidence this is true, 2) There is no evidence of vaccines leading to more variants than infection itself in any vaccine and 3) The vast majority of variants, especially those of concern, are coming from places with low vaccination rates.  It appears the only validity is that vaccines that cause a sense of invulnerability and hence increase transfer versus isolation.

Fo you know why it is impossible to discuss with you?

You dont give a dam about truth...

Mullis denounced BEFORE dying the way his PCR desing was already used like a virus test , which it cannot be...

Do you think this pandemy was a mystery for all in before december 2019.?

Instruct yourself....It is not audio where you know a lot it is a complete other field where your expertise in audio means nothing compared to the men in my list....It is not Ted Denney here that you will debunk ....

Perhaps he know better than you...

By the way i just read his autobiography...

You know NOTHING about KARY MULLIS ....

 

I know you through your posts, and i know at the first minute that you have knowledge in DSP....

But i doubt greatly about your ability to analyse and read what is out of your field...

you prove yourself not very enlightened trying to reduce Tesla to be a tinkerer and now Fauci a scientist....

Are all these doctors and scientists nutcase?

Well most of them come across as nutcase clowns,  and the quality of analysis they apply generally indicates they are nutcase clowns. Not exclusively, but the vast majority.

They all think that the mandate forced vaccinations is pure crime and pure scientific errors motivated by corporate interests?

Dr. Harvey Risch, Yale University Professor of Epidemiology, Editor,
Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Board of Editors, American
Journal of Epidemiology (2014–2020), biostatistician
Dr. Robert Malone, original inventor mRNA and DNA vaccination
technologies, NIH Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions
and Vaccines (ACTIV) Clinical Working Group (2020), Editor-in-Chief,
Journal of Immune Based Therapies and Vaccines (2007–2012), Salk
Institute (1986–1989)
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, Senior Ebola Program Manager, Global
Alliance for Vaccines & Immunization (2015), Head of Vaccine
Development for Germany’s Center for Infection Research (2017),
vaccine developer at GSK (1995–2006), Novartis (2006), virologist
Dr. Michael Yeadon, Chief Scientist and vice-president of Pfizer’s allergy
and respiratory research division (1995–2011), respiratory
pharmacologist
Dr. Luc Montagnier, Virologist, 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine
Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, Chair of the Parliamentary Assembly, Council of
Europe Heath Committee (1998–2010), member of German Parliament
(1994–2009), pulmonologist
Dr. Peter McCullough, clinical cardiologist, vice chief of internal
medicine at Baylor University Medical Center (2014–2021)
Peter Doshi, University of Maryland School of Pharmacy associate
professor pharmaceutical health services, and Associate Editor at The
British Medical Journal
Dr. Paul E. Marik, Founder, Front-Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance,
Professor of Medicine, Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine,
Eastern Virginia Medical School
Dr. Pierre Kory, President and Chief Medical Officer of the Front-Line
Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance, Former Associate Professor, Chief of
Critical Care Service, Medical Director of Trauma and Life Support
Center at the University of Wisconsin (2015–2020)
Dr. Byram Bridle, University of Guelph associate professor of Viral
Immunology
Dr. Tess Lawrie, World Health Organization consultant, physician
Dr. Didier Raoult, Director, Infectious and Tropical Emergent Diseases
Research Unit (France), physician and microbiologist
Dr. Peter Breggin, National Institute of Mental Health (1966–1968),
Harvard Medical School (1963–1964), doctor of psychiatry, author of
more than 40 books
Dr. Meryl Nass, physician, vaccine-induced illnesses, toxicology, expert
delegate to the US Director of National Intelligence bio-threat study
program (2008)
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, Medical Director Monsey Family Medical Center,
physician
Dr. Charles Hoffe, physician
Dr. James Todaro, physician
Dr. Scott Jensen, University of Minnesota Medical School Clinical
Associate Professor, Minnesota State Senator (2016–2020), physician
Dr. Ryan Cole, pathologist
Dr. Jacob Puliyel, Director Department of Pediatrics and Neonatology, St.
Stephen’s Hospital (India), past member of India’s National Technical
Advisory Group on Immunization
Dr. Christiane Northrup, University of Vermont College of Medicine
Assistant Clinical Professor of Obstetrics & Gynecology (1982–2001),
physician, three-time New York Times bestselling author
Dr. Richard Urso, MD Anderson Cancer Center assistant professor (1993–
2005), Chief of Orbital Oncology, scientist
Dr. Joseph Ladapo, Surgeon General of Florida, professor University of
Florida College of Medicine, associate professor at UCLA’s David
Geffen School of Medicine, assistant professor of Population Health and
Medicine at NYU School of Medicine
Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Harvard University professor of medicine,
biostatistician, epidemiologist, expert in vaccine safety evaluations and
monitoring infectious disease outbreaks
Dr. Michael Levitt, Stanford University biophysicist and professor of
structural biology, 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry
Dr. Satoshi Ōmura, biochemist, 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine
Dr. Paul E. Alexander, US Department of Health & Human Services
Senior Covid Pandemic Advisor (2020), WHO Pan American Health
Organization (2020)
Dr. Clare Craig, UK National Health Service (2000–2015), pathologist,
Oxford University and Cambridge University trained
Dr. Lee Merritt, US Navy physician and surgeon (1980–1989), past
president Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Microbiologist, head of the Institute of Medical
Microbiology and Hygiene at University of Mainz (1991–2012)
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Stanford University Medical School professor,
physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy
expert focusing on infectious diseases
Dr. David Katz, Yale University, founder of Yale’s Prevention Research
Center, physician
John P.A. Ioannidis, Stanford University Professor of Medicine,
Epidemiology and Population Health, physician-scientist
Dr. Sunetra Gupta, Oxford University epidemiologist, immunology
expert, vaccine development, infectious disease mathematical modeling
Dr. Catherine L. Lawson, Rutgers University research professor, Institute
for Quantitative Biomedicine
Dr. Salmaan Keshavjee, Harvard Medical School professor of Global
Health and Social Medicine
Dr. Laura Lazzeroni, Stanford University professor of biomedical data
science, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences
Dr. Cody Meissner, Tufts University professor of pediatrics, expert on
vaccine development, efficacy, and safety
Dr. Lisa White, Oxford University professor of epidemiology and
modeling
Dr. Ariel Munitz, Tel Aviv University professor of clinical microbiology
and immunology
Dr. Motti Gerlic, Tel Aviv University, clinical microbiology and
immunology
Dr. Angus Dalgleish, University of London professor of infectious disease,
Dr. Helen Colhoun, University of Edinburg professor of medical
informatics and epidemiology, public health physician
Dr. Simon Thornley, University of Auckland epidemiologist and
biostatistician
Dr. Stephanie Seneff, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Senior
research scientist
 

That's pretty AMAAAAZING there @mahgister, that Kary Mullis came back from the dead to be an anti-Covid vaccination leader.  (died August 2019)

 

p.s. due try to get your facts straight:  https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

 

Luc Montagnier, claimed that vaccinations were creating variants even though there is 1) Not a shred of evidence this is true, 2) There is no evidence of vaccines leading to more variants than infection itself in any vaccine and 3) The vast majority of variants, especially those of concern, are coming from places with low vaccination rates.  It appears the only validity is that vaccines that cause a sense of invulnerability and hence increase transfer versus isolation.

 

"Peter Stoilov, PhD, an associate professor of biochemistry who is leading the SARS-CoV-2 variant sequencing efforts in West Virginia, described Montagnier’s argument as “completely bonkers.”

“The fact on which he bases his argument is that mutations can change epitopes that the immune system has learned from the vaccination, and this gives some selective advantage to the virus. Consequently, in his mind, this would ‘create’ new, more dangerous variants,” he said.

However, Stoilov pointed out that “selection does not cause new variants to emerge; it merely selects some of them.”"

 

FYI,  Luc Montagnier is 89, and quite possibly no longer player with a full deck, and certainly is not applying good science.

 

 

Is Kary Mullis an anti-vax?

Is Luc Montagnier an anti-vax? And a failure like Tesla?

Two Nobel winner are antivaxx then?

 

In science the use of the "proper" word in a "proper" context is essential...

Calling these 2 NOBEL anti-vaxx, because Mullis the creator of the PCR, just before dying denounced vigorously the way fraudster Fauci in corporation use PCR Tool, which cannot be a testing device for a virus presence for multiple reason, is an abuse of the word "anti-vaxx"...

Luc Montagnier is not against vaxx at all, he denounce at his own peril, the actual WORLD-WIDE forced mandate vaccination like pure foolly...He is not alone...

But if Tesla was a tinkerer and a failure, Fauci a success, why not calling antivaxxAnyone who demounce an insane policy conducted by corporations NOT by scientists or by scientist sales of their corporations ...

I am sure you are very competent in DSP, and some aspect of audio for sure but for the rest i am no more sure at all...

None of the researcher i read about this crisis are anti-vaxx...

Only one is anti-vaxx by profession because he was the vaccinations victims defender for a long time against corporation and i admire him greatly.... Robert Kennedy junior...

His book about Fauci is a must read...

I guess you have no idea about Fauci history and links...Fauci is like his friend Robert Gallo a fraudster ....You know Robert Gallo?

That is not to say there are 0 side effects to the vaccines, but most of the anti-vax stuff is right out of a comedy show.

@kitechaser I'll show you the difference between a truly inquisitive mind, and a lemming. Pay close attention...

If I heard there were  "Safety trial documents that a federal court just forced the FDA to release". I would go wow!! hold on....I am going to drop everything I am doing, and I am going to go read the said documents. 

 

In Contrast...The lemming below DOES NOT EVEN BAT AN EYE :)

Proceeds like nothing was even said. Move along, nothing to see here. 

Well most of them come across as nutcase clowns,  and the quality of analysis they apply generally indicates they are nutcase clowns. Not exclusively, but the vast majority.

Just don’t read the Safety trial documents that a federal court just forced the FDA to release. :)

Yep, they are all extremely corrupt, and they treat anyone that goes against the narrative as Nutcase clowns. It is not something that you would expect from people screaming about the sanctity of science every chance they get.

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Wow.

This reminds me of the debate around the Covid vaccines, the outsider view is treated in exactly the same way.

Is this what all of main stream science is like?

The Z-Pinch Morphology of Supernova 1987A and Electric Stars

This Peer Reviewed Published paper in 1987 predicted stars exploding more than once.

NO Black Matter Farts required.

 

 

You guys are sticking to theories of Star formation that were Sanctified in the Horse and Buggy days. Think about that... anyways...this is just one amongst thousands of other objects in space that directly contradict Solar formation theory....but the train keeps chugging along without as much as a hiccup.

 

You would think the fact that the electric universe idea is just that, an idea with 0 proofs, 0 modelling. It does not explain anything. It is like cable risers and fuses in audio ... lots of hand waving, no validation.

You will know it one day...or you will invent another fantasy fairytale and call the problem solved. Hyper Super Black Matter wind. :)

Nothing to see here, move along. 

That's right they don't know what it is,   they're still investigating. That's one of the great things about real science, "We don't know" is a valid answer and spur. 

Electric Universe Theory: I think it looks like a spark.

Everyone Else: We don't know today, but we will figure it out.

Plasma cosmologists predicted this sort of behavior in the early 90’s. They wrote papers about this property of stars, and they don’t need hyper wind of Hyper Farts to explain it’s existence.

From the article you posted. 

 

Many hypotheses have been proposed that may explain the true nature of iPTF14hls. Some studies suggest that the object could be a pulsational pair-instability supernova, while some point out to a magnetar. Other scenarios taken into account are that iPTF14hls could represent a shock interaction of ejected material with dense circumstellar material or even an antimatter burning in a stellar core. However, none of the presented hypotheses fully explains all the aspects of this source.

We will never know if The Tesla tower enterprise would have been able to bare fruits or not, because the cicumstances of his times deprived him of the money to end his endeavour, being it right or wrong...

In these same years. in 1913,Pierpont Morgan and other bankers alike him funded the PRIVATE central bank that own America and the world through their institution...This will go global after the first world war and called, the bank of international settlements or BIS...This is history not conspiration theory.... Save for most people who are ignorant of history....

Nowadays when so much people are crushed under tyrannic circonstances , when so many own so much and all the rest own nothing, we go into a wall...

The only problem we face is not too much people on Earth, but few people controlling everything...

If you call this "fact" in Tesla life only an excuse, it is you who dream sleepwalking with your own personal knowledge and success and judging others "ignorant" and calling a great man a tinkerer first, now a failure...

The true success is not money, nor being right in science or other fields or not being right , the true success is being truly human and stay human ...

 

«Eternity dont give a dam about Nobel prize»-Anonymus Smith

 

There you go, making excuses for Tesla, see, I told you he would fit right in today.

This star exploded 5 times in 2 years, and 6 times in 50. Is that cause for concern for any of you that believe the current Supernova theories?

 

Each time it exploded it outshone entire galaxies, brightness equivalent to 2.5 million suns.

@djones51 A supernova like this cannot exist, according to mainstream theories about star formation. This is akin to having an apple falling from a tree reliably and predictably, and then One day instead of falling...it zips straight into outer space, over and over and over and over again.

The underlying "Theory" of star formation has to be reexamined, is that being done?? You tell me.

When scientists come across unexplainable they look for answers. I wonder has science stood still since 2017? Toss up their hands and give up? Very curious,  could there be more about iPTF14hls, have other astrophysicists been studying this mystery? Maybe science stood still and wrote this up to electric universe "theory", is that term  even applicable ? 

@kitechaser the most unexplainable part of the whole observation is as follows:

 

iPTF14hls grew bright and dim again at least five times over two years. This behavior has never been seen in previous supernovae, which typically remain bright for approximately 100 days and then fade. Credit: Adapted from Arcavi et al. 2017, Nature. LCO/S. Wilkinson. 

Star exploded, survived, and exploded again more than 50 years later

by Carnegie Institution for Science

Star exploded, survived, and exploded again more than 50 years later
Artist’s impression of a supernova explosion. Credit: European Southern Observatory/M. Kornmesser.

It’s the celestial equivalent of a horror movie villain—a star that wouldn’t stay dead.

An international team of astronomers including Carnegie’s Nick Konidaris and Benjamin Shappee discovered a star that exploded multiple times over a period of 50 years. The finding, published by Nature, completely confounds existing knowledge of a star’s end of life, and Konidaris’ instrument-construction played a crucial role in analyzing the phenomenon.

In September 2014, the intermediate Palomar Transient Factory team of astronomers detected a new explosion in the sky, iPTF14hls.

The light given off by the event was analyzed in order to understand the speed and chemical composition of the material ejected in the explosion.

This analysis indicated that the explosion was what’s called a type II-P supernova, and everything about the discovery seemed normal. Until, that is, a few months later when the supernova started getting brighter again.

Type II-P supernovae usually remain bright for about 100 days. But iPTF14hls remained bright for more than 600! What’s more, archival data revealed a 1954 explosion in the exact same location.

Star exploded, survived, and exploded again more than 50 years later
An image taken by the Palomar Observatory Sky Survey reveals a possible explosion in the year 1954 at the location of iPTF14hls (left), not seen in a later image taken in 1993 (right). Supernovae are known to explode only once, shine for a few months and then fade, but iPTF14hls experienced at least two explosions, 60 years apart. Credit: Adapted from Arcavi et al. 2017, Nature. POSS/DSS/LCO/S. Wilkinson.

It turned out that somehow this star exploded more than half a century ago, survived, and exploded again in 2014.

"This supernova breaks everything we thought we knew about how they work," said lead author Iair Arcavi of University of California Santa Barbara and Las Cumbres Observatory.

An instrument built by Konidaris was key to analyzing the light emitted by iPTF14hls, which dimmed and brightened at least five times over three years.

Called the SED Machine, Konidaris’ tool is able to rapidly classify supernovae and other short-lived astronomical events. A quick turnaround on classifying these kinds of so-called transient objects in the sky was sorely needed when Konidaris and former colleagues at Caltech first built the machine.

Star exploded, survived, and exploded again more than 50 years later
iPTF14hls grew bright and dim again at least five times over two years. This behavior has never been seen in previous supernovae, which typically remain bright for approximately 100 days and then fade. Credit: Adapted from Arcavi et al. 2017, Nature. LCO/S. Wilkinson.

Stellar explosions teach astronomers a great deal about the origins of much of the material that makes up our universe. A supernova explosion may even have triggered the formation of our own Solar System.

"But not too long ago it was faster to identify short-lived celestial phenomena than it was to classify them and determine what they could teach us," Konidaris said. "Which is why we built SED, but I never expected it would help us analyze an explosion as strange as this zombie star."

"Nick’s role in this discovery demonstrates the importance of having an active instrumentation effort, which is increasingly rare on many campuses," added Observatories Director John Mulchaey.

 

@kitechaser, same article I linked previously

There you go, making excuses for Tesla, see, I told you he would fit right in today.

People on forums pretend to be all sorts of things, and we might have just stumbled into one of those situations.  This is getting brutal by the minute 😭

Its very entertaining though lol

@yuviarora thanks for posting that last video, same stars exploding multiple times, I had never heard of that before.