The Big Misconception About Electricity


This vid goes quite a ways down the road to explaining why:

1)  Power cords make a not so subtle difference.

2) Cable elevators should not be looked at askance.

 

Regards, barts

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The worst part is, you don't even realize how insane you sound to anyone with even half a working brain

Ahem...

How about you go war game some more genocide.... go build some plasma weapons and fantasize about killing some Russians while you are at it, talk some more about easy it is going to be. :)

A few missiles here, a few over there...SAM defenses this...SAM defenses that...a cake walk. 

The worst part is, you don't even realize how insane you sound to anyone with even half a working brain, and you are just so matter of fact, just cavalier about it. 

This mindset that everything is going to be the same from here on out into perpetuity, all the while your entire country/civilization is falling apart, and you cannot see it......and you wanna go fight Russia on top of everything else. 

Good luck. 

Have a safe trip...seeing as war can break out at any moment on the Border of Ukraine, as we speak, don't forget to tell the rest of us what it was like. 

 

 

@djones51 , you enjoying this alternate universe?  I wonder about the stability of someone who thinks discussing relative military strength is advocating for Nuclear war. Of course, hard to tell if that is just a dishonest, attempt to discredit me or the sign of deeper trouble.

 

p.s. guys, Tesla is still a hack.

I am sorry, are you talking to me? 

I try to keep my distance from Genocidal maniacs....

what a nutbag. Jesus

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How does this Electric Universe idea account for nuclear weapons anyhow? Shouldn't we be shooting huge electric beams or something? 

Let’s have a real in depth conversation are you go Nuke some Russians.

Professor 😀

 

I must say you guys are doing a marvelous job of juggling dumpster fires.

 

I would say starting dumpster fires, but Tesla was still an over rated hack.

I must say you guys are doing a marvelous job of juggling dumpster fires.

My head is spinning.

Regards,
barts 

@mahgister That nutjob is in another thread advocating for Nuclear war against Russia. Man we wasted 3 days trying to take this guy seriously, I think my IQ dropped 10 points after trying to deal with his nonsense.

 

@kitechaser These people really are crazy....and suicidal. 

 

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A last word: being a cult figure in underground culture dont make him a crackpot nor a tinkerer...

Even if his tower could not has worked like he dreamed about, and it is probable that this tower would not have worked like he dreamed about,

he never was a tinkerer by any meaning of this word..

With his mathematical and physics university formation, his eidetic memory, he was OVER Edison by a large margin... And with 100 hundred more patents in electricy than the genius Steinmetz who owned 200, spoking 8 languages , no one ever called him a tinkerer...Certainly not Einstein, even if Tesla was probably wrong against Einstein about electricity...This is historical fact....

He was human with his limit BUT never a tinkerer,

save for some pretentious people ready to denigrate to make a point....

This photo where we could see Einstein with Tesla and Steinmetz, in a common meeting, at the times the three greatest genius in electricity in the world is testimony of that...

 

The Carlson book is a very serious work .... The title say all.....

PROVE TO ME THAT TESLA WAS ONLY A TINKERER AND I WILL QUIT AUDIOGON...

IS IT A DEAL?

By the way i read this book among others:

W. Bernard Carlson, Tesla: Inventor of the Electrical Age, Princeton University Press, , 520 p.

it is one of the authoritative book on Tesla...

Wrote to him that the title is a crookery and a lie... the title of this book made it Just snake oil like Tweaks are....

But a clue about the editor of this book it is Princeton university and they are demanding editor... THEN ...

Stay in audio thread and go against Ted Denney....

 

It seems it is YOU who was badly informed...

If you want i will send to you a copy of the book NO CHARGE....

Tesla is a physicist, a great inventor, one of the great one, and not a tinkerer...

All these posts of you are around a way to falsify facts and history...Using details and dates and complete idiotic argumentation like : he was not alone...

The Tesla unit honor a genius not a tinkerer...

 

Is Tesla a tinkerer or a genius?

 

DETAILS AND DATES about inventions cannot diminish the intelligence of a man who own 278 patents because he was few months after someone in some case...

You wanted to prove that he was only a tinkerer not a genius....this is FALSE.... Nevermind any date...

You quit because you CANNOT contradict the large truth with minor details anymore...

Insulting dead people is easy... But only closed mind do that to serve an agenda in an audio thread...

Tesla was NEVER a tinkerer.... Remember it....

Instead of recognizing your wrong qualification you persist with details and date that could never reverse reality about Tesla genius...

 

i never read the wikipedia entry.... they correct me ... I was wrong it is not 278 patents...

Tesla est l'auteur d’environ 300 brevets dont beaucoup sont attribués à tort à Thomas Edison2 traitant de nouvelles méthodes pour aborder la conversion de l’énergie.

Yes the first large one at scale and the more spectacular....And Lamme was working with Tesla patents and not OVER TESLA...Westinghouse who know BETTER than you admired Tesla and Lamme was under Westinghouse...

Do you know why no book mentionned him?

He NEVER published any acadamic papers only patents...

He never have any academic careeer, he work alone, and Why do we call a unit of the magnetic field strenght a TESLA? To honor a tinkerer ?

Because there is a cult behind this fact ?

Is Tesla a tinkerer?

Answer please before ...Spell the truth...

Dont hide before a date or argument like he was not alone or the first, or he made nothing remarkable...

Answer the truth...

Was he a tinkerer or not?

Bye bye is not an argument but a chidish gesture sorry...

By the way Wrote to this man that he is in a cult..Tesla was only a tinkerer...

"The evolution of electric power from the discovery of Faraday in 1831 to the initial great installation of the Tesla polyphase system in 1896 is undoubtedly the most tremendous event in all engineering history"

-Dr. Charles F. Scott, Professor Emeritus of Electrical Engineering at Yale University and former President of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers

Bye Bye Mahgister. Make up whatever version of history you want. Lamme was the senior employee, not Tesla.  It was not the first hydro plant. It was not the first AC plant. It was not the first polyphase plant. It was the first large one at scale, and Lamme was significantly responsible for that, hence why the IEEE gave him awards. Most researched history books agree completely with what I am saying. Pop history books in the last 10 years have been riding that other Tesla coat tail and pumping the former Tesla. In the 70's and 80's, barely anyone mentioned him name other than Tesla coils.

you are pathetic...

I just indicated in my precedent post that no inventor is ALONE in this complex field.. THIS IS A COMMONPLACE FACT.....

You will try anything to eliminate Tesla and Even your post reveal your stupid tactic...

Have you ever learn how to read? LAMME WAS WORKING WITH TESLA PATENTS UNDER HIS DIRECTION...

All history book credited Tesla For Niagara falls... An history of all the details and engineers linked to it could NEVER change that...For sure there are other engineer in the world...But no engineer own 278 patents save the like of Steinmetz Tesla and very few other...Not one is a tinkerer...... Then why saying that he is a "tinkerer" ? He was a physicist....

This is my point...

I know perfectly well that you know way more about practical electricity than me, then why being stupid to gain a match in a discussion with stupid arguments? There is a Tesla cult yes, an edison cult yes... So what....Tesla is not a tinkerer admit you were WRONG saying it....

All people can read your post do you have no shame?

based on the work of Nikola Tesla and Benjamin G. Lamme, while the I. P. Morris Company of Philadelphia built the turbines based on the design of the Swiss company Faesch and Piccard.[

 

Lamme created an efficient induction motor from Nikola Tesla’s patents and went on to design the giant Niagara Falls generators

 

I will only disprove one of your points mahgister, since you appear to have drunk the Telsa cult coolaid.

The Niagara Falls generating station was completed in 1895. Can you at least make it look like you are doing some research?

 

 

The Adams power plant followed an 1886 plan by engineer Thomas Evershed to tap the power of Niagara Falls, which involved a "hydraulic canal" and a 7,500 feet (2,300 m) brick-lined tunnel, when the Niagara Falls Power Company was formed. The Cataract Construction Company, a new company formed to exploit the opportunity, led by president Edward Dean Adams, first formed the International Niagara Commission in 1890 to come up with a plan for harnessing the Falls. The Commission favored electricity, but could not recommend a solution to Cataract.[3]

 

In 1892, George Forbes was hired as a technical consultant and in May 1893 he convinced the company to build a hydroelectric system based on polyphase alternating current. Westinghouse Electric was subcontracted to build 5,000 horsepower (3,700 kW) 25 Hz[4] AC generators, based on the work of Nikola Tesla and Benjamin G. Lamme, while the I. P. Morris Company of Philadelphia built the turbines based on the design of the Swiss company Faesch and Piccard.[

 

Lamme created an efficient induction motor from Nikola Tesla's patents and went on to design the giant Niagara Falls generators

 

If you are going to post stuff, please do at least a modicum of research. I am done with the lot of you. You would be far more at home at 4Chan.

 

For sure Kennedy is wrong if he say vaccines are ALL bad...

But it is not what he say...

Inform yourself before reading piece of promotional garbage against him in the ACTUAL CIRCONSTANCE.....

More easy than read a book for sure...

He is wrong’: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s family calls him out for anti-vaccine conspiracy theories

 

Tesla invented the first alternative current WORKING SYSTEM , at Niagara Falls....Not only a motor...

Alternative current is a " principle" not a motor not an hydroelectric plant...

then your rectification is childlike...

And your sentence is ridiculous...

Any invention in a complex field in all history is always built on previous work...

You cannot use this fact LIKE AN ARGUMENT against Tesla creativity...

Your "critical analysis skills" are used for your own ego are very limited if i judge your constant distortion of facts for your benefit not for truth...

You will never admit being wrong, which is a sign not of a scientist but of a very limited spirit, nevermind your knowledge which i know is real in DSP...

it is the reason i dislike your attitude...You even tried and put pressure on me about an inocuous post i wrote and i dislike people putting pressure on me...

Go battle Ted Denney it is a war which lives up to your COMPETENCE...

You are unable to feel shame...

@kitechaser 

Tesla did not invent AC.

Tesla did not invent polyphase.

Arguably he invented the induction motor but built on previous work.

Robert Kennedy junior lived through 2 perhaps 3 unsolved assassinations in his familiy history...Justice is a sensible spot in the man...Do you think he decided to become a crook for money? he was already rich before his attorney careeer...

Would you imagine the kind of work he do for children and victims , do you think that he do it for money?

 

He became an attorney for VICTIMS of corporate company like Pfizer...

have you read anything about the BILLIONS of dollars for crookeries and falsification PFizer was CONDEMNED to pay only in the last years?

Then your insult about a man you dont know is a reflection about your own limited abilities to discern? Too much TV news?

Have you even read his book about Fauci?

I think you are to simple mind to be even call a "nut case" yourself....

You always derail what does not fit in your small, very small world...

 

Do you think the physicist and defensor of children Vandana Shiva, against vaccinations by Gates in India and a friend of Robert Kennedy is also a nut case?

I am sure you dont even know his name...

You ability to undertstand is criticizing ANYTHING out of your limited perspective if i remember your posts history....

 

Insults abound in your post history ALWAYS about somthing you decide it is nut.... Simple for simple mind...

Robert Kennedy Jr., not Robert Kennedy,  His father Robert Kennedy wasn't an anti vax nutcase. 

The number of people who can and will inform themselves by reading books is relatively low...

I will help them to investigate Dr Fauci whith this video of 2 minutes by a real scientist, Nobel prize winner, creator the PCR analysis device which was never a testing device save when we need one who can be falsified at will...

The creator of this tool one of the most important one in molecular biology is this dude who denounce the fraud when someone use it like a testing device for a virus month before his death:

Kary Mullis...

After Nobel prize and being totally free of the like of Fauci listen what he say about him:

.If you want a book, the Robert Kennedy book is astonishingly referenced....Try to debunk the Kenedy book...

https://rumble.com/vma61h-nobel-laureate-slams-fauci-in-resurfaced-video.html

 

And from the mouth of his creator what is PCR for test?

How do we debunk the guy who knows the limit of his technology ?

https://rumble.com/vldxef-nobel-laureate-pcr-inventor-kary-mullis-on-fraud-fauci.html

@kitechaser Like I was telling you, these hacks are gatekeepers. Every field of study has them, an army of trolls that stand in the way of real dialogue, and protect the establishment. Biology, Mathematics. Physics, Astronomy, Medicine, Science, Religion...you name it. These goons hurl insults at people that dare to step out of the herd, and send warnings to others to conform. This behavior is very common, it is everywhere. Conform or we will put you under house arrest, put you up on a cross etc etc etc. 

People like this made Socrates drink poison, corrupting the youth they called it. Dude was just exposing their own hypocrisy, and they didn't like it one bit. Killed him for asking questions. 

So ignore this pseudo expert, he lashes out whenever he is cornered, every single time, so predictable...you can set a watch to it.  

@cindyment then stop using Alternating Current.

You change arguments faster than a hooker changes rubbers.

No conversation is possible without good will and good faith...

Children gesture are no arguments...

Stay in DSP....

Go debunk Ted Denney, you are here for that, and i dont doubt that you will be able to do it....

After all it is your mission in life....

 

And thanks for the audio book recommendation i have ordered it...After all it is your field....A one thousand pages well illustrated book....

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, who once worked as a senior program manager for the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) and has been considered one of the most talented vaccine creators in the world,

Food for thought from Dr. van den Bossche site and a steak to stir apart for "wanna to be" debunker:

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/vss-science-updates-during-pandemic-times-2

 

Where is the debunker with great "critical reading analysis" when we need him?

Or the political clowns? But we dont need them....

For sure no childish "gif" will help to debunk this guy....

I am tired, good night...

@mahgister Most of them don't care. I am sure someone will debunk everything we are saying... but yeah, it's good to see other people that can see through this charade. 

Take care of yourself, seriously...the coming months will be the most severe that we have seen as of yet. Keep you immune system strong, vegetable juices, and things I listed before will help quite a bit. 

You win the quizz...

Congratulations...

Is this search was asking for great " critical reading analysis skills" ?

For sure if someone dont know for example that Tesla was not a "tinkerer" and search to prove that he was one, perhaps this person will need great critical  reading analysis skills to discover all that about a more complex subject matter indeed....

 

I hope i will sleep tonight...The flu take me awake for 4 days...No fever tough..

 

Remdesivir had an excess mortality rate of 30% in African Ebola trials. The Death Rate of patients it was given to was so stark, that they cancelled it’s use mid way into the trials.

Remdesivir is now the standard protocol for all Covid patients admitted to a hospital per CDC and NIH directions. Remdesivir is not FDA approved and is being used under Emergency Use Authorization.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1910993

If/when you get injured by this drug, the hospital, doctors, and the manufacturers of Remdesivir are protected against all liability.

 

Now connect the 2 dots...

Corporations would never had listen advice from someone whom by honesty and scientific ethic would have DENOUNCED the insane MASS forced vaccinations AGAINST All past science...Van den Bossche is censored EVERY Where, and i just gave to you an exemple of who are the debunkers...

 

 

Why do you think now that the amount of deaths in US is over the top world wide?

Do you need help to make a "critical analysis reading" ?

a Clue: remdesivir.... another clue: interdiction of any cheap efficient treatment SAVE remdesivir...

Someone need help?

By the way Even if Van Den Bossche was NUT case , many other world reknown specialists say the same thing...

Then in a field which is not our,"critical reading" is useless BEFORE we CORRELATE many scientist opinions scientist not PAID by corporations and FREE to speak...

Any critical reading of a text is impossible WITHOUT the historical context EVEN in science ....

 

 

 

Geert van Den Bossche worked for Gates and his field is evolutive epidemiology

The work about covid of Van Den Bossche is PRECISELY epidemiology dynamics and all his warning are based on this science field...

Someone understand? it is simple to understand and connect dots for those who had "critical analysis" skill......

I post it juste AFTER i posted this article in Quanta magazine where they say this:

But the most crucial need right now is for vaccine scientists to recognize the relevance of evolutionary biology to their field. Last month, when more than 1,000 vaccine scientists gathered in Washington, D.C., at the World Vaccine Congress, the issue of vaccine-induced evolution was not the focus of any scientific sessions. Part of the problem, Read says, is that researchers are afraid: They’re nervous to talk about and call attention to potential evolutionary effects because they fear that doing so might fuel more fear and distrust of vaccines by the public — even though the goal is, of course, to ensure long-term vaccine success. Still, he and Kennedy feel researchers are starting to recognize the need to include evolution in the conversation. “I think the scientific community is becoming increasingly aware that vaccine resistance is a real risk,” Kennedy said.

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They don’t want to wake up. I know 2 doctors personally that have told me that their hospitals have told the staff, they will lose their jobs if the say anything in media/social media against the vaccine.

I just posted an article from 3 doctors that are claiming that pressures to suppress all information against the vaccines are so great that researchers are self censoring. (and people here make jokes about this situation)

Studies get pulled after severe backlash, people are getting death threats constantly, medical licenses are being revoked.

This is beyond anything that I could have even dreamed of 2 years ago.  

 

Look at what these debunking smear campaigns have done to ever Doctor/Medical Researcher has spoke out against this. who in their right mind will tell the truth in these circumstances. 

 

Thanks but it is a flu....

i alreary suffered from  covid i think one year ago at this time of the year...

Flu and covid are very different in most cases...