Technics SU-R1000 - Good but not the king of switching amps


Was looking at the measurements for the Technics SU-R1000 Integrated published by Stereophile. I never bother with the reviews of the sound quality as there’s 1 reviewer there whose ears I trust and it’s not this reviewer.

To be clear, this IS a digital amplifier, and is not a Class D amplifier. Atmasphere will always disagree with me, but given Technics nomenclature and the use of an A/D converter, and PWM output I think if any amplifier qualifies as digital this one does.

What I find kind of interesting here is that the measurements are OK but not absolute Class D killing results. I am particularly unimpressed by the performance of the impedance compensation circuit, LAPC, which at the end of the day does not seem to have performed significantly better than actual, non GaNFET amplifiers, particularly in removing the effects of the output filters Class D amps require. I really hoped to see a huge win here... but it’s not. It’s just making the PWM perform almost as good as a true Class D amplifier.

I have not heard this integrated, but the claims and expectations laid out for the technology seem to not be proven in the measurements. This is a very expensive integrated that does everything differently, and measures about the same as previous generation, also excellent sounding, Class D engines I’ve seen measured.

My stance that Class D was already very good and that new, faster switching amps would have to be truly spectacularly better to unseat them remains, in my mind, uncontested.

Can’t wait to see everyone trashing Class D on the measurements suddenly decide that this amp should be heard and not measured.

erik_squires

The Technics has a headphone output of 600 ohms!

 

Not according to the measurements, it's 100 Ohms.  Still relatively high, but sadly not uncommon in an integrated. Perhaps you are confusing it with the preamp outputs which are ~ 700 ?  A fine measurement there.

 

https://www.stereophile.com/content/technics-su-r1000-integrated-amplifier-measurements

Amir does not listen seriously to anything. As long as the SINAD is a certain number or lower then he thinks the amp or whatever is "transparent".....ie...has no sound. His thinking is flawed. You change the connectors on an amp and it sounds different, yet still measures the same. I am sure the Topping PA5 sounds very good and could be modded to sound way better, but still would not match other amps sonically that might measure worse. Just the way it is.....believe it or not.

Much love and blessings to you beautiful people.

I have just bought one and it sounds great. I haven't done extended testing with the LAPC and a few reviewers say they can't tell the difference but I am sure with my speakers Zingali Evo Twenty there is more resolution with the option on.

 

The whole Class D thing and the Technics name seems to have pressed a lot of buttons. I've went from tubes to this amp and I have no regrets. I would say only the Esoteric A-100 which I owned for a while sounds close to this amp but that was a while back and I never heard it with my Zingalis.

 

I trialed the original Jeff Rowland Class D and this is in another universe altogether. Measurements are measurements. I think we all use amps to listen to not run around them with meters.....

Putting the measurements to one side for a moment, the subjective reviewer was pretty much blown away by its sound.

There have been plenty of great switching amps before the Technics, and there will be more long after, so I'm not really surprised listeners like it. :)

 

I'm more curious about all the technical expectations which IMHO haven't really been met here.  It was expected the extremely elevated switching speed would raise the performance for switching amps.  It seems, based on measurements, it's not better, just as good.