The audio press said they made one of the biggest differences when taken out of the system, then re installed back in. Does anyone have first hand experience with these ?
That being said, they seem like quite a bit of money for what you get, however if they work at improving the sound it would be worth it. I do use Synergistic products which have made a definite improvement in sound but am quite skeptical on this product.
So much sniping and not one substantive comment on the item itself. Did anyone even bother to try and learn anything about it? Anyone? Beuller?
Like all SR it says right on there they did extensive double-blind testing to select aluminum from among several different candidate materials. Same thing Ted did with metals when developing his Element series. Discovered tungsten that way. Which I know for a fact is awesome, since I have a set.
Anyone? Beuller? Dude comes on here asking for help, gets a little, then in no time flat it devolves into the usual blather. Pathetic.
What I see is after using double-blind testing to select the material they used more double-blind testing to develop a new HFT tuned for these risers. Anyone who has used HFT or ECT knows just how effective they are.
My reviews of HFT, ECT and PHT have been up for months, and there are others. This isn't random dudes blathering away while working on a beer at the bar, this is serious audiophiles with substantial systems and reams of posts as evidence of their ability to hear and evaluate. Ted Denney has a solid 30 years history of developing products that provide good value for money. My personal experience has been they are always among the top values in their category.
This is not the kind of record you can even dent with bar room banter. All that does is drive your own credibility even further into the toilet. Which most of you ought to be so ashamed of by now, but you're here, therefore no sense of shame. Which is why I say, pathetic.
All that remains now is for the golden stream of light in the darkness to emerge and call me a shill. Even though I have said nothing one way or the other about how good this stuff is. But that's what passes the time for you guys. Pathetic.
Just so you know, unlike the people who knock things they don’t understand without even trying, I actually tried a bunch of different things and went for what worked best based on how it actually sounds. So rest assured this stuff works.
Whew! I’m glad that’s settled! Thanks! ;-)
BTW, everyone who uses and believes in homeopathic medicine, or astrology, or crystal healing, would write almost word-for-word the same type of testimony. "I tried it and I can tell you the theory works." ;-)
Frank,
You missed the point. Don’t change the analogy. If I told you I am getting 500 miles per gallon on the existing Golf engine...do you have a right to be skeptical of the claim WITHOUT "having tried it yourself?" I’m pointing to the weakness in the purely subjectivist audiophile shibboleth "you can’t have a valid opinion about X tweak claim unless you have personally tried it!"
"I’ve souped up my Volkswagen Golf to get 500 miles to the gallon. It’s amaaaazing!"
If you’ve replaced the internal combustion engine with electric, then I would believe you.
On the other hand, if I told you that I replaced the stock engine in my Volkswagen Golf with a motorcycle engine, and I’m turning 10 second ET’s at the strip, would you believe that, or would you call me crazy for even suggesting such a thing?
Look closely at the pictures you will see more than just Cable Elevators. There are other ceramic insulators bought on eBay after I discovered Cable Elevators are really just ceramic insulators and they all work the same. Shop around on eBay you can find ones you like at a good price, usually about $20 each.
Just so you know, unlike the people who knock things they don't understand without even trying, I actually tried a bunch of different things and went for what worked best based on how it actually sounds. So rest assured this stuff works. The only question is how well it works for the money.
Synergistic has such an awesome track record, as you seem to agree, that my advice would be to get a few of the inexpensive ceramic insulators first. Maybe you are so happy with them you stop right there. But if not then the next step would be to buy the SR and compare. Most SR comes with a 30 day guarantee so worst case you keep them because they are better, and have a few ceramic insulators to put under less critical stuff like power cords. Again, see my system for reference.
Notice the stark contrast between my deliberate, moderate, reasonable, thorough, incremental results-based approach and the others? Choose wisely.
What happens to the cables inside your speakers? They’re sadly exposed to all sorts of extreme vibration, electro-mechanical or magnetic trauma...it’s a wonder they work at all, and a major reason why little outside cable holders are ridiculous.
I've souped up my Volkswagen Golf to get 500 miles to the gallon. It's amaaaazing!
Now, do you think you have to have personal experience driving my car, before having any reason to be skeptical? Would I score points against your skepticism by complaining "But you haven't TRIED it for yourself, so you have no grounds to poo-poo my claim!" ?
Remember the old adage: Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out. Right?
And here we go again with the "I’ve never heard it for myself, but I just know it has to be nothing more than (fill in your own blank here)," crowd.
Here are some samples to use to fill in the blank, just in case you’re a neophyte, or new to the small group of the perpetually annoyed that lurks on this site:
Scam. Snake Oil. Shill. Rube. Con Man. Gullible. Cheat. Expectation bias. I can tell you how to better spend your money. Yer just plain nuts. Yer gonna burn yer house down. You don't really believe this, do you? Really??
In the meantime, the rest of us will continue exploring the rarified air of exotic tweaks; PC’s, IC’s, Gates, Pastes, Mats, HFT’s, ECT’s, PHT’s, Red, Black, Blue, and Orange fuses, and yes, even various cable lifters, including the new ones from Synergistic Research, and we will gleefully be reaping the benefits from the cumulative effects of the same, while the Negative Nellies and Debbie Downers continue looking through the wrong end of the telescope, shaking their heads in disdain, clicking their tounges, and wagging their fingers at the rest of us, while wondering if that new, expensive piece of electronics, or if that new pair of totally weird looking speakers will finally get them to where they want to be in this hobby.
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