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Subwoofers - Final Thoughts with Martin Logan ESL 13A

I’ve narrowed this down to 3 choices (I think) and was looking to see if anyone has had some experience with pairing these subs with ML ESLs? I can’t try and return because they are mostly secondhand purchases, so hoping to get it right the first time!

Force Cancelling subs have been highly recommended, so:

KEF KC92 (or KF92 older model) 2, 3 or possible 4 of these:

https://assets.kef.com/product-support/kc92-subwoofer/KC92_info_sheet_EN_V4_20240124.pdf

Martin Logan BalancedForced 210 - Maybe the best as they match up nicely, but I could probably only do one of these as they are HUGE. I have only one spot I could put one as far as the manual's recommendation goes. Martin Logan says these will cover 3000 sq. ft. My room is only 500 sq. ft. Two maybe overkill, but some say, "2 subs or no subs" Maybe I could put another addition on the house :-( 

https://www.martinlogan.com/en/product/balancedforce-210 - click on Specs/Lit

Lastly, The Swarm Subwoofer System - not sure how well this would work with my ESLs.

https://www.audiokinesis.com/the-swarm-subwoofer-system-1.html

Any advice would greatly be appreciated (as usual).

Thanks, and all the best of the season to you all!

 

 

 

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@navyachts,

https://www.newaudiovideo.com/audio-c-35/subwoofers-c-35_34/velodyne-digital-drive-plus-10-inch-subwooferblackeach-p-9555.html?srsltid=AfmBOoobD9vNMPMO66ZjMOHYlJZIstwQ9pxspHS76z-4c1gnTCFS2v52

After over a decade still one of the simplest and quickest remote control subwoofer Auto Optimization with six customizable presets while the main system remains in analog.

Manual adjustability of all fourteen subwoofer related parameters including the drag and drop Frequency Response and Parameters Screen using a TV or laptop. Ability to control multiple subs and integrate with ANY speaker.

Google: Velodyne DD-Plus manual for questions, Velodyne Acoustics, Lidar and David Hall for background. Enjoy.

 

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@m-db I would LOVE to have that subwoofer, but even at that discounted price, two of them would be WAY over my budget, but thank you!

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@audphile1 

I mention to Doug Dale about my old MLs having more bass and here is his response regarding going to V2 or V3.

"Might be the different MLs.  If you are the original owner of the #8 we can switch to a V2 for free (minus shipping).  We are changing the V3 at this time but could do that as well when we receive our next shipment of caps".

Didn't really answer the question, so I asked again and he hasn't responded. Having dealt with him many times over the years, I've noticed he is a man of few words.

 

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I had an awesome conversation with Doug over the phone. Great guy. Told me few funny stories. I think he’s more of a phone conversation type dude and email might not be his favorite form of communication .

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