Subjective vs. objective? Or subjective and objective?


 

The question is explored in this 32:02 video. Though it's not for me to say, I would hope that only those who have actually watched the video respond. Thank you.

 

https://youtu.be/sS_ZIvMjStM?si=cdLNltYHlQldRaUg

 

bdp24

By sheer happenstance watched this video just prior to visiting this forum. I couldn't agree more with Danny, completely correlates with my experience modding speakers. As for those who don't believe different parts of same value cannot sound different, some years ago I made a simple change of capacitors (same value) in some OEM speakers, got in contact with designer/manufacturer, he incorporated this mod. Not only did he hear the difference, so did literally hundreds of owners of these speakers who incorporated the same mod in their speakers and/or heard the difference in the two tiers of speakers offered by OEM, one with the prior caps, one with the new caps.

As @hilde45 and Danny stated, there is a synergistic relationship between the objective and the subjective as it pertains to loudspeakers and audio in general.

 

Phew, what a relief.

 

I have been avoiding my "How good is the crossover in your loudspeaker?" thread since my post on 5-19 (too many posts by those whose responses revealed an attitude that is of no interest to me). After reading all the great responses on this thread I went back and read all that followed my last one on that earlier thread, and was pleased to see all the well-reasoned posts that followed mine.

Carry on!

 

Each time a subject comes up that is framed as "this OR that," I usually ask, "why can't it be both?"

Thanks @knotscott !

Personally, I'm not a fan of words like "subjective" and "objective."

Every measurement we do is designed by us, interpreted by us, and applied by us.

  • How long is a yard?
  • How loud is a sound sample?
  • How bright is a speaker?

We make the measurement standards, and the method used to measure, and we interpret the results before we choose where to apply them and decide what they tell us whether they help us achieve goals – which we also choose.

It's all up to us.

It's turtles all the way down.

It has basically been raining for two weeks where I live with another week of daily rain in the offing. The humidity is quite high and the mold count quite high. Think that doesn't have an effect on the sound of mdf speakers especially the bass vented cabinets of my Cornwall 4's? It does - not extreme but definitely audible. An option would be to brush on a true high solids varnish to the inside cabinet walls ideally at a time of low humidity. Problem is it would probably alter the "tuning" of the cabinet and not be easily reversible. I long ago decided that such measures are not worth the risk. In the general scheme of things messing about with tolerances at this level just feels like too much of a mine field, and it is enchanting to be riding a horse that has its own slightly variable personality. I had a horse like that when I was a teenager. His name was "Blackie" - solid black with ferocious, foamy sweat in the hot months. You never quite knew what his mood would be from one day to the next, but he was magnificent.