Revel ultima gem 1 can be found occasionally for $1500.
Those speakers can play very loud without distortion.
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Speaker choice without need for deep bass
I am slowly moving away from large full size/full range speakers and migrate to smaller 2 way.
This effect is caused by me adding a great 18" subwoofer to the system, and later playing with the 'main' speakers (and main amplifier) relieved of the 50 Hz and below heavy lifting duties (low pass to sub with own dedicated amp, high pass to main amplifier/main speakers).
So the big full range speakers were replaced with large bookshelf. Everything is fine, except that I have a HUGE (by volume and area) open main listening room. But now the 2 way speaker with one 6" woofer just CANNOT 'move enough air' to listen to high level music without starting to distort.
Therefore the next speaker design I want to try is a still small speaker but with two low/midrange drivers simply to be able to play at 'concert level' without distortion; but still no need for very low bass.
Since still in the trial and error and validation phase of my 'concept', any small 2 (if needed 3) way candiate must also fit the VERY low price (used) criteria ($1,000 or less).
What comes to mind?
Note: I had also inquired about the KEF LS50 for example, but was told they (and similar speakers) would suffer from the 'just not enough square inches' issue required for very large rooms.
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@erik_squires How's the 'subcabs' going? |
The original poster’s remote controlled Velodyne Digital Drive-15 is equipped with both variable low and high pass filtering. All Velodyne DD series subwoofers offer the ability to act as a master Optimization control in conjunction with most any slave subwoofer. High pass filtering is not a panacea rather a method to be tried. Usually in the case of inadequate amplification power to the main speakers or if the main speakers provide a poor low frequency response at their lower limit. In any case high pass filtering is a trial and error option to be determined by the user.
Using the original posters remote controlled Velodyne Digital Drive-15 provides multiple adjustment parameters for matching the main speakers presentation as well as room optimization and equalization which are then saved to six memory presets. Velodyne DD series subwoofer’s position must first be determined by using the subwoofer crawl or their calibrated mic while noting the rooms strongest or best sound standing wave modes (as should any subwoofer) to position the subwoofer in. The Velodyne DD Plus series uses a more in depth twenty minute auto program to make these adjustments which can easily be manually altered to taste then saved to memory within either models six EQ presets. Velodyne technology eliminated the "hard’ twenty-two years ago for either 10" $2,500. to 18" $5,800. |
It seems that your current setup has some similarities to mine - midbass/tweeter powered by small tubes amps with an inline filter @ 60hz, then bi-amped with a solid state amp/low pass active crossover @ 60hz that powers 8" woofers and active subs. I don’t have the need to play louder, but if I did I’d consider a speaker that’s similar to the single midbass/tweeter, but has an MTM configuration to retain the coherency of the 2-way, with the addition of more midbass output. |
@OP You are up against the laws of physics. You can make a small speaker play loud, but scale requires the ability to move a lot of air. So if you want concert level spl's and scale, a small two way just will not cut it. The closest to achieving that goal - at a price - that I've heard is the Borresen 01. If you absolutely have to have a small form factor speaker, the Neumann 310 might work - its a studio monitor, a three way in a pretty compact cabinet. Like most studio monitors, it's active. But really you would be better with a bigger three way floorstander. An 18 inch drive unit is not really designed to go up into the midbass, so you would be better off with a three way. |
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