@vinylzone
You never posted the results of your comparison and listening event!!!
I'm curious about speed control and own a VPI turntable. Your impressions would be greatly appreciated.
Sota Total Eclipse package for VPI tables first impression
@vinylzone You never posted the results of your comparison and listening event!!! I'm curious about speed control and own a VPI turntable. Your impressions would be greatly appreciated. |
@tablejockey The Phoenix setup is real time speed adjustment.It's not really real time. Once per revolution the speed is calculated and adjusted. It's more adaptive than real time, the VPI solution is set it and forget it, which doesn't take into account variations due to bearing temperature or stylus drag. I agree the Eclipse package is in theory a much better system of speed regulation. The better motor is the icing on the cake. |
@melm, FWIW I have never found that quick switching from one alternative to another to be a useful guide to judging SQ. Even more so when the switch will take time as switching between the two motors will. A week of relaxed listening is the only thing that does it for me to decide which is better. Because I have the flywheel, we will be able to set both motors side by side, and be able to switch the belts from one motor to the other faster than changing interconnects. I've always found side by side comparisons to be most helpful. We'll be listening to favorite tracks, one at a time, and the listener won't be able to see which motor is active. The problem with 2 weeks at a time is that I'll know what I'm listening to, and I'd be relying on long term audio memory. I'm confident enough in my listening skills that if there's a difference I'll hear it side by side. |
Usually, I agree with melm on making comparisons. I would even suggest listening to one system for two weeks. Then switching to the other drive system for two weeks. Then switch back to the original. ABA works better than AB comparisons, in my experience. However, if there is a decided advantage to one of the two set-ups vs the other, you will hear it right away. |
First, congratulations on getting the Eclipse package. I use the Eagle-RR combo on a VPI and couldn't be more satisfied. And you have a better motor now. FWIW I have never found that quick switching from one alternative to another to be a useful guide to judging SQ. Even more so when the switch will take time as switching between the two motors will. A week of relaxed listening is the only thing that does it for me to decide which is better. But YMMV. |
Yes, but the proof is in the comparison coming this weekend. We'll be able to compare both motor systems side by side with a simple change of the belts from the VPI/SDS and Total Eclipse system to the flywheel. I'll be able to set up the motors side by side and obscure the view of the motors from the listening position. I don't completely trust my first impressions due to the time lag between listening sessions, and my own expectation bias. Audio memory is fleeting, but side by side comparisons are more likely to better show what differences if any exist between the two. |