So you think wire conductors in cables are directional? Think again...

clearthink1,233 posts05-27-2021 1:53pm
edgewound"No cable is worth $10,000."

What you fail to recognize, understand, and comprehend is that for some people $10,000 USD would be not a lot of money it would be an expense they could easily absorb that may be difficult for you to accept if you are watching your dad work two jobs just to pay the rent but for some others it would not be a big deal and you can not say it is not worth it to them you can only say it is not worth it to you. If your father or parent(s) guardians are struggling to meet family expenses which is what it sounds like it is of course hard for you to understand why some others could or would spend that kind of money for cables.


Without meaning to be rude, impolite, or disrespectful to you if cables such as this bother you another group might be better ask your dad to help you find one. In the US Scouting is a very popular activity for youth and it might be good for you too!

I recognize everything about you, just from this post. Alan Parsons wrote a song exactly about you. Be very careful...Karma is watching.

Why do some retorts always fall back on the costs of uber expensive cables when it's not brought up to begin with? That belies a lot angst on the part of some.

As for the "report button" alluded to, it doesn't disappear. Just move your cursor over to where it resides (lower right hand corner) and it will appear, like Tinker Bell, and pressing it will reward you with untold powers to silence those you disagree with.

All the best,
Nonoise

Why would I want to silence those I disagree with?...and vice versa? Discussions are supposed to be an exchange of ideas.

The thing with uber expensive cables is the marketing claims that are flat out outrageous at AUDIO FREQUENCIES. These things can be measured. Differences in measurements at AUDIO FREQUENCIES can be heard.

I don’t care what you spend your money on, I simply want manufacturers to prove their claims are a physical attribute and not psychological. Speaker systems and amplifiers can change their sound daily based on ambient temperature, humidity, and how much air is in a room at any given moment. Ears also change response based on how long one has been listening and at what SPL. Show me where a cable... an esoteric cable manufacturer discloses these things.

BTW...thanks for the "Report" tip. I’ve seen it before but failed to remember about the cursor.

how much air is in a room at any given moment

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Since it is " at any given moment" we can rule out altitude issues. Then we have to assume that air pressure changes over a given moment are at play and that would require air movement. So, any thoughts about how the direction of the air flow would affect the sound ? ( you know, as it moves in and out of the room ).

Cheers

OP if your version of "Frat boy" is a LOT of us agree cables sound different, you’re right. If you install them one way and there are NO ARROWS and then install it the other way and DO or DON’T hear a difference, what camp does that put someone in?

Like a few poster here believe in bundles of cables, others mix and match, others zip cord.

I don’t think there are TWO camps, I think there are several different ideas, and not all will pass scrutiny. The neat part is it (how it sounds or doesn’t) can be ignored by ME or YOU. Still doesn’t change the fact someone has a better sounding system even though you or I can’t hear the difference that others can.

When two people have the exact same boxes, ALL the same. The room, the preamp, the amp, the speaker boxes, EVERYTHING is the same and the only difference is cabling.. That is an eye opener. That is what changed my mind 40 years ago on "different", cables sound different ways..

I truly think the biggest issue is not direction (I thought that was figured out 30 years ago) per say but SIZE. Bigger is not better, but it sure will do damage because of WEIGHT and size..

I’ve seen more than a few systems sound BAD behind BIG PC and oversized speaker ICs. Direction is a bonus and pays dividends in the construction of cables right on down to how you coil up a cable when IN use or NOT.

I suppose static discharge/drop and flop cabling sounds as good a carefully routed, pre coiled, pre conditioned, terminal end treated (with contact enhancer) cabling..

I really thought "Cable Direction" was a 30 year OLD topic.

Are there 20K speaker cables? Only if someone else pays for them.. Not ME..

I just looked at a 15K piece of stained glass that someone else commissioned to be made..  NOT ME!! I'm a 300.00 kind of guy and get out the soldering iron and glass cutter.. :-)

Amazing!