Primaluna?


I’m thinking about giving a full tube setup a go and Primaluna in particular.  Looking to hear people’s experiences with Primaluna in general. My main draw to them outside of tubes is there auto bias and protective features.  Wondering if people generally replace a single bad tube or if people are replacing all tubes of that type when there’s a failure.  Also would be interested if there were any other companies with at least a similar protective feature. The auto bias sounds great but the protective features are a bigger deal to me.  

brylandgoodman

Consider bass traps in corners. Photos of your system in your profile would be helpful. 
 

I am sure people with Harbeth will chime in to comment. I would think this is a frequent combination. 

Until last weekend I owned a Primaluna Dialogue HP Premium Integrated amp.   Last Thursday my Audio Dealer, www.OlsonHiFi.com, lent me a Krell K300i to test against my PL.   I really liked the PL.   I had rolled tubes, SR Orange fuse, etc.   In my system, the Krell was totally superior in almost every aspect.   I traded in my PL…

I’ve been a diehard tube guy until last weekend.   Dynaco, Audio Research, Audio Labs, Primaluna, and a few others along the way.   Now, I’m a SS believer in my specific setup.  Your setup is different.   To be fair, the PL can be had used (like mine) for about $3k whereas the Krell is 2x that.   Depending on your setup, the PL may be an excellent fit.   I do like the PL a lot.

The detail, control (particularly of the lower frequencies), and effortless presentation really won me over.

My system: Innuos Zen Mini Mk3 running Roon, through Silnote USB cable, now into the Krell K300i with the integrated DAC, through GR-Research 24pr cables, into my XStatic full range electrostatic speakers.  

Question newbie on tube amps, why are tube amps according to people who own them say the sound is more say romantic sound vs SS amp ? 

What is better to own cost wise sound advantage single ended and push pull ?

Thanks guys excuse my inexperience on the tube issue.

@aseaman007 

Great questions. Could I suggest you post this as a new thread and delete this. It is a great question. But this is already a long thread.

I’d be happy to respond. Big questions.

@aseaman007 

Tube amps are considered more romantic sounding  than solid state because, more often than not, their signature sound has a little less treble than a typical solid state amp, and their bass has a bit less kick drum/electric bass punch. In other words, the sound is a little less in-your-face -- a situation that instinctively favors the romantic side of existence.

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the auto bias protection fuse circuit works great; sure, the red led lights up for the bad tube; pretty easy to see when a kt120 archs and the system shuts down...the quick blow fuses saved the auto bias board from any damage; simply replaced the two fuses and i was back in business...well, except for a new kt120 tube...but in any case, Prima Luna has an old school look, no bells and whistles...all the good stuff is under the hood but shows up nicely in one's ears....they have went up about $1500 or so since 2020 when i bought my first evo400 tube amp; just got a 2nd evo400 tube amp so i can go dual mono; running all kt120s and sound is different than stock/oem tubes...and better BUT ONLY because it's a slightly different sound..the origial tubes EL34's are perfect as is...but tube rolling, while it can get expensive ($125 a tube x 8) is ok...but i'm not that much of a gear head...i think i just liked the look of a bigger tube, and more orange glow....however, I am not going to the KT150s as there plates sort of hide the tube glow......all that being said; the value of primaluna gear is superb....sure, it's not pretty as McIntosh or high-end like ARC and D'Agostino ...but you'll have several tens of thousands of dollars in savings...and your ears will  never know the difference.....peace of mind/piece of mind...