Budrew, the Accustic Arts drive is pretty good, but it was beaten up by a hot rodded G&D Transforms UTP-1 here recently......My point is these old G&Ds can be found for 1K or so and, with a new laser most will need, they are competitive with the current Ikons.....Oh, the retail on the Accustic Arts just rose to over 5K recently from just over 3K so it is no bargain......