Planned to upgrade to DeVore Gibbon X, but concerned about comment of base leanness
was going to pull the trigger on an upgrade from Gibbon Nines to the Gibbon X. I like the Nines and believe the X will give me a little more of everything I like about the Nines, especially a much fuller and deeper sound. I then read the review in the Stereophile Recommended Components 2019 "He also noted that "the midrange driver and woofers are out of phase in the region where their outputs overlap," which might explain the impression of leanness". I am concerned about the impression of bass leanness.
Anyone listen to Gibbon X and if so your thought on bass leanness, or overall impression?
Auditioning is a real pain as it will take a whole day and due to a current medical condition traveling can be a real pain. I may just end up taking a day trip and spending the night in a hotel. If there is bass leanness that is a deal breaker....
I have not heard them. You can stop reading there, if you want.
Any speaker whose woofer is far off the floor will be subject to floor-bounce cancellation, which typically occurs in the 100-300 Hz range. This can cause leanness and necessitates careful positioning, which still can’t always overcome it.
That effect is very much in evidence in Fig. 3 of the Stereophile review. One thing one should be aware of is that JA1 is really, really good at positioning speakers for best response. (His graphs often compare response in the reviewer’s room to his, and he always gets a better result.)
Some people like a suckout in this range, as it adds perceived "clarity" and "tightness." I for one do not like it. My advice is, listen carefully before writing any nonrefundable check.
I auditioned them 18 months ago with Sugden amp/pre and Line Magnetic CD player and Audience wire. Huge bloom with excellent mids/highs. But, the bass integration left me wanting, a lot. I had high hopes because I wanted a speaker with some efficiency. Had to walk away from that. I think I read the review you mention. Nevertheless, I didn't like the speaker because of the bottom end. The rest was very convincing. If you put this speaker in contention, you owe it to yourself to go and hear them. Then have the dealer place them in your room to see if they will actually work. They are not an inexpensive proposition.
TAD Evolution System - E-1 speakers, M2500 amp, C2000 pre/dac. Also Aurender N10. On another planet better than Gibbon X, but also 2X cost and total system cost significantly more.
Actually, the Gibbon X is quite a bass heavy speaker. Read for instance the review at parttimeaudiophile.
I auditioned the Gibbon X in what was a pretty generous sized space and found the bass region very deep but unfortunately over-bearing. Just too much. Wheres in the same space the O/96 speakers sounded rich but pretty well controlled in the bass. The Gibbon X's bass response left me with the impression it would be one of the trickier speakers to integrate in to a room (especially one that wasn't large).
The mids and soundstaging were very nice though. Clear and warm-toned, with I think a bit of that upper bass/lower mid leaness.
I would agree with @prof that the X isn't bass shy at all - in fact, too much on certain cuts in my 14x18' room. The Super Nine would probably be ideal but wasn't released yet. The Xs need space.
I have a set of the Devore Gibbon X in a 19 x 20 x 9 foot room and have no issues with the bass control in the room. If anything I will say that a lot of people don't realize how much of an affect an amplifier can have in this regard. I went from a smaller CJ stereo amp to a set of Merrill monos and the difference in bass weight and control was huge, almost startling.
Late to this thread. I've owned a pair of Xs since early 2019, paired with a Bel Canto Black Ex integrated, and haven't had any issues with the bass. If anything, the bass is a strong point ... well-controlled, firm, dare I say supple? I have a 14 (deep) by 25 (wide) room with the speakers along a long wall. Obviously room size, amplifier and positioning also make a difference.
I have owned the Gibbon X for over 1 year. I had a total absence between 100 and 300 hz. and too many high frequencies (and I love the mid high and the high frequencies). Unfortunately I had ti sell them
Any high resolution speakers, when poorly set up in a given room or paired with the wrong amplification, can produce incomplete or undesirable results. The higher the resolution of the speakers, the more care that needs to be taken with set up and amp matching. The Gibbon X's are high resolution speakers. You hear what is fed to them.
I've owned mine for about 4 years. When I first got them, I had a 25' x 17' room. I moved house and now I have a listening room half that size (about 15 feet x 16 feet). With a bit of care and experimentation, I have been able to get the X's working as well in this much smaller room as they did in the previous larger room. And I have also listened to a number of other speakers in both rooms.
The X's are not at all bass light or bright when properly set up. The bass is powerful, deep and extended (more extended than the O96's for example). It's in the upper bass (100Hz - 150Hz) where many smaller speakers have a slight hump that the X's can seem ever so slightly lean, but you only notice that in direct comparisons. And when you put on a high quality recording with true low bass and hear the X's bass extension, that thought is gone! And what you notice next is how clean and detailed the midrange is. How boxless the overall sound is. The cohesion between the mid unit and the tweeter is remarkable.
All this assumes sensible set up, decent quality sources, good equipment isolation and appropriate amplification. I've achieved great results with an ARC REF 75SE. And btw, the X's are no fussier than most other equivalent speakers when it comes to set up.
This is a very subjective Hobby, and we should all know this by now! As a former Professional Musician, in another life LOL!! And who has worked with some of music industry's Best, sound signature in this hobby can and is very personal, to the minimal and maximal budget. IMHO; #1.Speakers #2. Amplification #3. Sq FT (Dedicated listening Rm or Studio) and Music Genre (type) can make or break your listening pleasure no matter what the cost, thank you much.
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