"Warning ... These products are like eating potato chips. Once you get started, it's hard to quit." Amen Frank! Happy New Year.
Perfect Path Technologies
Other threads have been focused on one particular product, and I thought it might be appropriate to start a more general one to discuss various current (and future) products from this company. Users of PPT products, and those who are interested in or considering them, please post your experience, thoughts, questions etc.
Lively, spirited dialog is encouraged, but please, be respectful and do not engage in personal attacks on, or disparagement of, other posters. Remember, tolerance is all about how we treat those we disagree with.
I purchased a new home in early October, so I have been in the process of getting my system set up, settled in, and back to where it was before. During that time I had forgotten a little bit how profound the “Perfect Path Effect” is. Does it defy conventional thinking, and easy explanation? Absolutely, but I have proven to myself over and over that it is very real.
All the signal and AC connections in my system were previously treated with Total Contact. It had plenty of time to cure, so I did not reapply it when I set up this time. I have 16 of the original Omega mats, two each under my CD transport, DAC, pre, amp, power strip, on top of my speakers, and on the outside of my breaker box. I have an Alpha card on the back of both speakers, over the crossover. I have StopIts on the unused inputs and output of my pre. I have StopIt ACs in all the unused listening room outlets. The latest addition is a pair of Omega+ mats on the outside of my breaker box.
I could go on and on about natural detail & dynamics, coherence, involvement with, and just plain “realness” of the music, but, in the end, it’s something you have to hear for yourself. I really wish I could have everyone that reads this over to listen with me 🙂
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koestner ... On the mats vs the fuses ... Hard to determine this one. If you're getting two of the original Omega mats, I'd go with the mats. If you are getting one mat and doing all of your electronics with the fuses, I'd go with the fuses. If the decision is one mat or one fuse, I'd go with the mat in the circuit breaker box. Another alternative would be to buy a Total Contact kit and paste all of your connections with TC. If you did that, I believe you'd have better results than you would from just one original mat or one fuse. Warning ... These products are like eating potato chips. Once you get started, it's hard to quit. Happy New Year ... Frank |
koestner ... Put your first two Omega + Mats in the circuit breaker box. Presently, there is a bundle price being offered by PPT on two Omega + Mats. https://perfectpathtechnologies.com/product/2-pack-emat Frank |
Christmas Day here; a little different in the land of beaches, barbeques, warmth. With two children overseas (Edinburgh, Montreal), a quite quiet Christmas. Lamb chops, chicken, mussels, salads in an hour. This evening, will be sitting outside with a fire (via brazier), music, movie. And, a Merry Christmas to all lovers of music, no matter its form! |
It has been 240 hours since I placed an Omega+ Emat on my switchboard. Just a few observations. First thing noticeable is the power in the base with some tracks. I have a concrete base, so it does not reverberate to my sitting position. Kind of wish it was wooden floors, as this would be felt. It's not a thump though. The 'depth' of the music has increased. Hearing way more into the music. And accompanied with this, there is musical information I had not heard before. Some subtle/head turning, some continual. Instrument separation is more evident. Even with complicated pieces, it is easier to follow different streams. The realism has increased. With some tracks, I can place where the musicians are on stage. My listening satisfaction has increased, with this small listening sample. No critical listening as yet - system is in the family lounge (a small 130m2 house) - wife is watching a movie on Netflix next to me, with a daughter alongside. |
thecarpathian ... Krissy has been trying to get me to do this for a while now. I don't drive much anymore, but I'm tempted at this point just to see what happens. Frank |
gcdrum ... Are the plugs on the side of your power conditioner where they won't interfere with the mats? If so, then placing the mats on top should be fine. Remember, Tim said that the effects would go through thick steel plates. As you know, I've placed mats on the outside of my speakers, and they have penetrated the wood of the speaker and affected the drivers which are probably four to six inches away from the outside of the speakers and the mats. Frank |
Frank, My power conditioner has legs with spikes which hold it more than 2” above the surface. The legs are spaced too close for a mat to go underneath without the spikes piercing the mat. So, due to the height and leg situation, I’ll put my next 2 mats on top. Do you think the physical contact with the power conditioner might actually make it a better choice? Greg |
tommylion ... At this point, I’m thinking that the four most effective placements for the Omega + E-Mats are, in the following order: 1. In the circuit breaker box. 2. Under the power conditioner. 3. On the rear and on the sides of the speakers in line with the drivers. 4. Under the electronic equipment. Frank |
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mijostyn, there is no one more skeptical of tweaks than me. I have not tried a designer fuse, or any tweaky products other than the original emats, which I have used for about a month. I never really was on board with Oregonpapas over the top descriptions of how the emats worked. OK, here it is, my system has been lifted way up from where it was. Everything is just so much more. System is Copland CTA 305 tube preamp, recently updated by John Wright Meitner MTR 101 monoblocs amps, Meitner transport and modded DAC, updated Thorens TD 160 turntable, and Avance speakers (look them up). Alternately a Parasound A21+ enters. Bottom line, the mats are a winner. |
Buy music not hearsay.That is how a community like this should operate... Music lovers who relate their experiences, in relation to products they have used. It will be subjective. As my views are. If you have not tried something, why do people think they can dismiss the listening experiences of others? |
I turned all my tubes so they faced Mecca and darn if the speakers did not start bowing down. Incredible site to see. My wife saw it too! Really guys. I had a whole house surge protector installed with my brand new Generac. It cost me $789.00. $4999.00?? Toomy I'm glad you like the sound of your system. It sounds like you work for the company dragging all these poor soles along. The rich leading the deaf. Buy music not hearsay. |
This is probably an impossible question to answer, but your opinion would be appreciated. I have two of the original emats and because I have so many breakers I have two breaker/fuse boxes next to each other downstairs in the basement. One of the breaker/fuse boxes is large and the second half the size with only eight breakers. Do you think the best bang for the buck would be one emat each on both the large and small breaker/fuse boxes or one on the large breaker/fuse box and one under my tube preamp? At his point I have one on the large breaker/fuse box and one under the preamp. Thanks |
I recently added 3 EMat+ to my system, two of the new mats replaced the previous gen mat on the electrical panel (replaced 1 original Omega mat with 2 new ++ mats). Put the old original and the 3rd Omega+ mat on my CD player. My system was previously treated with Total contact on interconnects and power cords (both ends), speaker cables (both ends). Handful of the Stop-it's around the house and the RCA cap covers on un-used inputs. Saw an modest improvement immediately, but hit about 10 days last night. Holy Canoli the imaging was so amazing I almost had to turn off the system, my brain was going into sensory overload. Stayed up 2 hours past my bedtime couldn't get over how good my rig sounded. My experience matches Tommylion's in that it took a while for the Omega+ to fully work the magic. Figure I've got roughly 2K in PPT products in my system, the improvement is a bargain compared to 2K in equipment upgrades. Can't wait to get my turntable back up and running (VPI Prime with AudioTechnica Art9) and will report back on that. Color me impressed. My rig - Musical Fidelity A3 Cd player, Supratek Chenin tube preamp, Conrad Johnson MF 2250 amp, Revel Performa3 bookshelf speakers. |
My 2 EMats installed on the electrical panel continue to improve the sound of my system 10 days after installation. I’ve ordered 2 more that will arrive by the end of the week and I will place these on, or under, my power conditioner. My components include Pass Labs INT-60 Integrated, Marantz SA-10 CDP, Tekton Double Impact speakers, and cables from Synergistic Research and Morrow Audio. Feeding these already great components clean power has transformed the listening experience in an amazing way, More updates to come. Greg |
I recently received an order of Stop It outlet covers with two E-Cards.I wanted to install the first Stop It on the empty socket for the wall receptacle that feeds my power conditioner. In order to do that, I had to get under my computer desk where room gain makes the bass is very boomy. The bass level dropped a few decibels the instant that the first Stop It was plugged in.I was not expecting any change at all.It was very surprising that one Stop It can have such a powerful impact. I was wondering what the hell happened; it’s just one plug. I split the remaining 8 covers between this room and another room. One E-Card went under the a/c conditioner and the other went on top of the LPS 1.2. The sound became hash with the E-Card on top of the LPS so I put it under the amp. The sound stage was flat but very detailed. I was not impressed with the Perfect Path products at this point. The next day, the bass came back with a vengeance. My door was rattling at the typical volume level that I listen to. This has never happened before but that wasn’t all. My system’s noise floor has dropped to the lowest point that it’s ever been. Images are 3D! My system was already very dimensional but now it’s 3D squared. There's also a bit of harshness that’s missing. I’ve been trying to track down the source of the harshness for a little while now but it was solved by 9 a/c covers and two belt buckles (E-Cards). These are Twilight Zone tweaks that really work and I get goosebumps when I listen to my system now. |
tommylion OP millercsrbon, I am very grateful that we are able enjoy the benefits of things, without having to know the how or why. >>>A little curiosity wouldn’t kill you, you know. My least favorite expression is, “Golly, I have no idea how this thing works but works it does!” Oft declared by reviewers, designers, statesmen and philosophers. |