Aren't those drivers Beryllium? Maybe a Qtip and some alcohol if you're very gentle.
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mizike OP No leave them be don't listen to anyone saying to clean them, I have and was shocked, the mid and tweeter on theNS 1000, 1000x and 2000, are clear polypropylene cones, that just have a very thin vapor deposited coating of Beryllium on the polypropylene, any cleaning or rubbing will take it off and expose the clear polypropylene cone underneath. Only one or two Yamaha's had pure spun Beryllium cones, and were as fagile as egg shells, the mighty GF-1 https://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/14-84924-31512-50.html?LNG=E and I think the NS10000 also. https://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/16-06185-99993-50.html?LNG=E Cheers George |
An individual on Audiokarma had a pair that were very nasty looking and cleaned them up with dish soap, water and a soft cloth. https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/yamaha-ns-1000m-drivers-cleaning-and-rufurbishment.6... I was under the impression the Beryllium was vapor deposited onto a copper plated aluminum mold. I believe the vapor deposited Beryllium was only 0.03 mm thick (about twice the thickness of Al foil). If it was free standing, it would certainly be very fragile because Beryllium is very brittle. Whether they are free standing or on a polymer base, I would be very careful with them. |
George, I was not disputing what you observed. In fact what you observed is what would happen if the Beryllium was vapor deposited onto an untreated or poorly treated polypropylene surface. I was just commenting on the need to introduce reactive bonding sites on the polypropylene surface for the vapor deposited Beryllium to bond with. |
What you have to think about is, can it be possible to stiffen a polypropylene cone just with vapor deposited Beryllium partials on it. To be honest I don't think so, as the Beryillium particles would have no structural strength in either plane at all, unless it's spun or forged as in the GF-1's then there's no need for a polypropylene former under it. Cheers George |
I have a set of Yamaha NS 1000m speakers. I really like the sound. Once put on stands at the proper height and set up with a bit of rake and toe they are spooky magical. However found the most perfect amp for them. The Bryston B60 integrated amp. I have had some really big expensive amp/speaker systems and this right up there. Do not laugh that is the perfect power for NS1000 speakers! |
In fact what you observed is what would happen if the Beryllium was vapor deposited onto an untreated or poorly treated polypropylene surface. It wasn’t a causal light wipe, thinking they were pure Beryllium and nothing else, and could take some cleaning solvents like metho, turps which shouldn’t effect Beryllium. I wiped lightly what looked to be nicotine stains with dust embedded in it, almost salt air corrosion to look at, on the tops of the mid and tweeter domes. With cotton buds moistened with mentholated spirit, after a few light wipes I could see through the dome where I wiped, being a clear polypropylene dome. Lucky I had a store back then of a few JA0548A and JA0803 which are the Yamaha part no’s for the mid and tweeter. Cheers George |