IMHO, and only mho, Mike Morrow is a salesman first and foremost, a business manager second, and he is not one iota of an innovator. The thing that really angers me is his thrusting his 60 day satisfaction guarantee and his "you gotta break these in for 400 hours and start all over again if you disconnect them" BS in people's faces simultaneously. The average buyer is never going to get 400 hours on the cables within 60 days and he is banking (literally) on this. If you buy Morrow, don't listen to the burn-in BS and be sure to send the cables back within 50 days because he counts days and hours and seconds to the nth degree. I know this first-hand. Secondly, his cables are not even all that great. The sound is just "there" without any sense of organic coherence. I will be putting 5 of his cables up at fire-sale pricing quite soon. I'm going to warn my buyers-in my ad-just what I have stated above-that they might like them but that imho they are "meh". |
Wolf, good points raised. In my case, I paid for break in because the first two Morrow cables I bought, I didn't get the break in service. They recommend over 400 hours to break them in and it took a loooooong time to achieve this. I did hear some odd effects at times, the cables were quite off and when I unplugged them at some point to compare to other cables, it took the Morrows a couple of hours to sound normal.
So when I stepped up to the MA3 and MA5 with Eichmann bullets, I didn't want to go through that long burn in again. With their deep discount options, it's a worthwhile option, YMMV.
Which ever way people want to go, Morrow really makes some excellent sounding cables without the retail prices. I love to read about other's experiences too on the Morrows, it helps to have a body of knowledge on what to expect.
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I noted some subtle changes with the Audio Art IC3 during the burn in process. Nothing too extreme. This time around I am just letting the Morrow break in without listening since I have them hooked up to my second amp and a tuner that currently are not hooked up to speakers.
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Simply listening to your cable to see if or how it changes over time. +1 wolf_garcia. My philosophy exactly. |
Regarding break-in, I find it interesting that anybody would pay for the cable manufacturer to do that for them instead of simply listening to your new cable to see if or how it changes over time. That’s what I do because, again, I find it interesting. With well made cables (various brands of which which I’ve enjoyed for decades) it’s unlikely you will hear the "extreme" changes described in detail in the Morrow pamphlet that comes with their cables, and unless the new cable simply sounds initially terrible (mine didn’t, either single ended or balanced) it’s just not that big of a deal. Morrow should offer the break-in free of charge as a selling point, but this might delay the shipping…still…based on their own claims it’s a strange business model…how hard would it be to sell pre-made cables that have already been tortured into their sonic potential? And if they lose that standard through shipping or not being connected to something, what’s the point of pre break-in? Note that having said all this, I was influenced initially by the Morrow claims and subjected my initial cable to hours of white noise having hooked it up to a tuner…didn't make much difference, if any. |
AQ claims that their cables don't change the sound of a recording but make it sound like it was originally recorded. Do No Harm I think is their motto.
I agree that when I put them in there was not much of a change in the character of the music but I was not looking for wholesale changes either. I have found that by changing IC's and the Power Cables I was able get more improvements to the audio than with the Type 4.
I can't spend hundreds on a pair of cables of any kind these days. I have to live within my means and don't have that kind of money laying around anymore. Will have to make due with the more affordable IC's and speaker cables. |
Cables are system dependant, and I suspect effects of a new cable in the system can be hampered by a less resolving cable in the same system.
I had had some pretty decent sounding Morrow MA3’s but with the entry level Audioquest Type 4 speaker cable the improvements were somewhat limited.
i now have Wireworld Oasis 7 speaker cables along with a more transparent amp, and it seems to make a difference. Love Morrow, btw, I’m going to buy a second pair of the MA 5 later on and probably some of their speaker cables. I add their burn in service to most of what I buy from them. |
My Morrow 1.1 IC's just arrived Friday. Have them burning in using a tuner to amp for the next three weeks. Will try them after the 400 hour burn in is complete. Will report back with the results.
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@will62 check your inbox, PM sent.
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I have used Morrow cables for many years now and have always been impressed with their quality. I have also taken advantage of the trade up program and now use SP-7 speaker cables and MA-4 interconnects. My next step will be to move up to MA-6's. I highly recommend Morrow and please note, I have no affiliation with them other than as a customer.
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Wolf.
If you disconnect the Morrow IC's for any reason and reconnect them to the same amp and NOT a different amp, would a re break in still be required?
Had a pair of AQ Nevergreens but they were no better than the basic wire you get with the RCA connectors that are stock with the purchase of a CD player. Have heard the higher end stuff is better. Have the Type 4 Speaker cable and like that. Definitely better than typical speaker wires. |
You do understand that if you've disconnected your Morrows due to an amp upgrade you have to do a re-break in…March…they should be sounding good by March…late February maybe... |
I have a pair of MA-3s with Eichmann copper plugs, another with standard plugs, and several MA3 Y-cables with standard plugs. I got a free MA1 cable with one of my purchases. I am happy with all of them, although I do sometimes feel they are little light in the bass range compared to the Monster cables they replaced. But that is the only area in which the Morrows didn't stomp all over the Monsters.
Right now, my amp is in the shop being upgraded, so I can't do any serious listening on my rig. But since you only lose the round-trip shipping, I would give the Morrows a try. I also like the Morrow business model with the trade-up program. |
I've been a solid core aficionado for years, mostly AQ stuff…I tried a pair of Morrow ICs last year as I thought the "use the same wire in everything but more or less of it depending on how guilty you want to consumer to feel" was interesting and now I'm hooked on the stuff, both balanced and RCA. They do take around 107 weeks to break in, but the "break in" pamphlet that comes with the cables is sort of hilarious. |
Thanks for the info. I am going to give the MA 2 a try. The first IC I bought was a AQ Nevergreen. It didn't sound a bit different than the old wire IC it replaced. One of those stock cables that ships with a CD player or cassette deck. Years later I bought a Audio Arts IC3 and definitely heard a difference. |
I own several cables from Morrow (power, phono, IC and speakers), mainly because of the promotional prices. Comparing to other cables that I have at home - Black Rhodium, Atlas, Wireworld and some made by myself - I don't see too much of a difference in sound. Good thing is they are very minimalist and easy to handle. Maybe I'm just a cable skeptic, a non-believer... But at that price and with their return policy, it's worth to try. |
Mike has had a perpetual sale of some kind for years now. He does have good IC's though, based on what I've read. My only experience with Morrow is speaker cables & a custom cable he made for me which goes between a preamp & its power supply. Was pleased with both purchases. |