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MC/SUT into Line Level

Hello fellow enthusiasts.. My apologies for the noob question here, but I did try to search online regarding the use of the line stage for my MC/SUT setup, but did not yield any results to what I'm looking for.

My set up: Rega P3 (2016) > DV20X2L > Bob's Device SKY20 > Doge 8 Clarity (2017) (stock line tubes, Mullard's phono tubes).

Doge 8's line level is excellent, and I'm wondering why I couldn't utilize the line level for my MC/SUT setup? What potential damage or issues if I do so? Thought I'd ask first before trying it out myself, as I don't want a costly mistake.

The goal is to have a lower noise floor. Its currently acceptable under phono stage, but again, I am just wondering if it can further improve without adding/changing gear, as I am happy with the Doge 8 and its line level.

Thank you everyone, and looking forward to any input.
oyie2000
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pratorious
125 posts
 
If I understand your question correctly you will still need to add an external  phono preamp stage to your line level input with the SUT.

This may indeed give you the results you are looking for depending on the phono preamp you choose and its synergy with the rest of your set up. Worth a try if you have the money and space for another component.
oyie2000 OP
13 posts
 
Thank you pratorious for your response.

I was hoping to just hook up the SUT directly to one of the line levels of the Doge 8 without having to purchase another component such as a phono preamp, especially that I just acquired the SUT and Doge 8. 

Is there such a thing as overloading the line stage by directly inserting the SUT without a phono preamp? or What potential problems may I encounter if I do so?

Thank you in advance.

erik_squires
16,009 posts
 
Vinyl requires the RIAA curve to be applied.  Even if you got the voltage up correctly at 1 kHz it would be wrong at 40 Hz and 10kHz, so a phono stage is required.

Wiki the RIAA curve.
oyie2000 OP
13 posts
 
Ok. That makes total sense. Appreciate the input! 
regismc
112 posts
 
VPI Traveler, Dynavector 20x2L, Bobs Sky 20, E.A.T Glo Petite r very nicely balanced n my rig.  The Rega would more than likely sub in just fine.  Something like a Project Phono Box MM can fit the bill if budget is limited.  Take a look at the Audio Envy cables also.  They work really well and are very reasonable priced, nicely engineered, easy to handle & well built.  Good luck...

https://www.hifinews.com/content/eat-e-glo-petit-phono-preamp
oyie2000 OP
13 posts
 
Thank you regismc for your advice... I will definitely take a look at those cables and thanks for the link to your phono pre.  I've recently acquired the Sky 20 and it sure makes a difference. As we know it in this hobby, it never ends - for many that is. 

Have an awesome day everyone!

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