On March 8 this year I auditioned the 30.7s at Definitive Audio's Music Matters event. Wendell Diller did the setup. He's mentioned in the linked Stereophile article about the event.
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@seanheis1 - I also was at the Music Matters event in Seattle and the 30.7's are really nice. They are deserving of the flagship title, however I think Magnepan may have created a similar problem as Richard Vandersteen by having a 15k speaker that's state of the art in their line. It may make hard to justify the extra cheese for 30.7. Cheers |
I also was at the Music Matters event in Seattle and the 30.7’s are really nice. They are deserving of the flagship title, however I think Magnepan may have created a similar problem as Richard Vandersteen by having a 15k speaker that’s state of the art in their line. It may make hard to justify the extra cheese for 30.7. My perception is a bit different. I felt that the 30.7 is a quantum leap in performance over the 20.7 or any single-panel Magnepans I’ve heard through the years. Compared to the 20.7, it was more transparent, more dynamic (though the 700 wpc D’Agostino Progression probably helped), went deeper ... The 30.7s stunned me something like the $200K Wilson XLFs did a few years back, but I liked the Magnepans more with their speed and utter transparency, their radiation pattern, their "truth to timbre," the sensation of live instruments and voices in the room ... and at a fraction of the cost of dynamic speakers that can do that. |
Here is an originally priced 30k planar if you can’t wait. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/6576314570.html |
I heard the original version some 40 years ago (gulp!) in a salesman's home, which had a sufficiently large living room to let them breathe ~ 6 years ago, I bought my first maggies 3.5Rs and began my love hate relationship. I bought custom silver jumpers both in/out of the XO, I then went active, but could never get the low bass magic.I sold them and bought Emerald Physics (dipoles) KC IIs then $2K + I had them replace the oem internal wiring with wireWorld OCC ($500 upgrade). The KC IIs give me a comparble sound stage AND the warm and bass missing from the maggies. EP TOL is ~ $10K. I've never heard it, but I bet it gives most maggiees a run for their money and is room friendly |
I heard the Magnepan 30.7 demo at Absolute Audio in Santa Fe last weekend. I don't usually date speakers that are taller than me but I thought they were very nice and well worth making an effort to hear.Wendell was very low key-no tiresome 30 minute lecture on all the technical features. He mostly just let the speakers do their thing. Fun! |
I just heard the 30.7’s at the Denver ListenUp store last night. I was a bit disappointed but can’t decide if it was the room, the setup, or the 30’s, or all of the above. To my ears the lower mids and down to the bass were a bit bloated and for lack of a better term, ‘boomy’. The room was Absolutely too dead and took the sparkle off the top end. I have the 20.7’s and I know that the top can be extended, clean, and very real sounding with the right amps. The sound from the 30’s last night was a bit dull on top, very little shimmer or life or air; it was all sucked-up by the overdamped room. The room was also Too square for my tastes; 20 w x 23.5 L x 10.5 h. That’s a width to length ratio of .85. Also, the amps and the front-end were all McIntosh. This surprised me since every other Maggie demo that I’ve seen by Wendell used Bryston amps. I think that the Mac amps were the big MC1.25KW. In any case I’m not convinced those are the best amps for Maggie’s. Overall, a bit disappointing. But, dealer demo rooms can be a mixed bag. Following some of the conversations on previous 30.7’s demos around the country I have heard some other complaints on too much lower mid and bass energy in the presentations. Were you at a demo in a better room? A bigger room or perhaps one not quite so square? |
Living Sound in Wichita is hosting an introduction of the Magnepan 30.7s July 23rd. Wendell Diller of Magnepan will be here to present these new offerings. Our purpose will be to showcase these new speakers (see http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/magnepan-307-loudspeaker-part-one/), and to enjoy good music. Refreshments will be served. Please contact dayradebaugh@hotmail.com if you are interested in attending. |
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Forgot to post my opinion on the 30.7’s from my local store demo. First I should note that our local Magnepan dealer over the last several years has decided to chase home theatre over two channel and because of that they really don’t have the components on the floor to do the 30.7’s justice. I think for them home theatre made sense so I’m not knocking them on their decision - it was smart for them. Wendell brought in an amp they’re working on producing that may or may not be a good amp, but with everything going on with the large open floor plan of the store it just didn’t do it for me. I don’t know what was going on but I’ve heard the 3.7i and 1.7i’s sound better in the same space so I think it was just the room and associated equipment that just didn’t work. I won’t say if I was going to spend $30K on a pair of speakers I would pass on the 30.7’s but I will say if I had to make a decision immediately I would run out the door with a pair of B&W 800 D3’s in a heartbeat, which I’ve heard in another local store on worthy equipment. Actually it might be a little difficult running out the door with either speaker. I’m sure the 30.7’s are very nice speakers and probably good value; saying that because I feel Magnepan has always made speakers that perform well above their price point but like any revealing speaker they need quality equipment and cables upstream. Not sure about the PBR blue side rails they are using to showcase these... with white cloth. I think if they’re hoping to get preorders something like walnut with dark gray cloth may be more pleasing. I didn’t hate the palette but of the thirty some people at our demo pretty much everyone question the combination. |
Living Sound in Wichita hosted Wendell Diller of Magnepan and the new 30.7 speakers July 23rd. In the interests of full disclosure, I was involved in arranging the event, but as an interested and potential customer and friend of the owner; I am not an employee of Living Sound. They were shown in a room approx. 20'x 30', and were driven by PS Audio M700's, with both digital and analog sources. My dominant impression is that these speakers present a gigantic soundstage, both wide and deep. It felt as though I could walk into it. Throughout the demonstration I found myself closing my eyes, to fully appreciate the size of the soundstage. My own system is Infinity IRS Betas, and so I expect good bass reproduction, and these speakers delivered all of the bass I could want. In contrast to my Betas, the integration across the frequency range was quite seamless. A variety of music was played, chosen to demonstrate the capabilities of these speakers. Our host, Thomas Shafer, prepared a very informative discussion, with carefully chosen selections to illustrate the capabilities of these units. (Contact Thomas at Living Sound for a copy of the outline--it was interesting and very well done. tshafer@livingsoundhome.com). Particularly impressive, to me at least, was Josh Turner's "Long Black Train". You don't have to be "country" to appreciate this sound. He has a BIG voice, with the usual high-quality session men behind him. The 30.7's filled the room with this sound, without losing the detail of the musicians behind him. These speakers can boogie. Also memorable was Lyle Lovett, "North Dakota",from "Live in Texas". You had the clear sense of presence at the show, and could easily picture the stage and musicians. Chad Kassem of Acoustic Sounds in Salina came down and played some vinyl he's about to introduce. The recordings were extremely silent, and you could hear Dean Martin breathing on one of the cuts. Vinyl at its best. The 30.7's are not plug-and-play. Positioning can be varied with respect to room boundaries, and either bass/low midrange or upper midrange/tweeter towers can be placed on the outside, with different effects on the imaging and soundstage. Wendell also tuned the midbass by installing inductors or resistors, which can be optionally plugged into terminals on the back of the speakers. The consumer should expect to experiment with placement and tuning for optimum results, which is the case with any top-level speaker system. One common misconception needs to be addressed, which concerns the size of the room required. Although Living Sound's room was 20'x30', it effectively "played" much smaller, given the encroachments of displays and furniture from the side walls, and the depth of seating provided for the audience. A room 15' wide (the size of my music room) should be quite adequate. I would have no concerns at all installing these speakers in my music room. I don't expect that you'll need to rob the bank for amplifiers to drive them; the M700's did not seem to be overly taxed. There has been a lot of discussion on the 'Net about whether these speakers did or did not sound good in a particular environment. In the Wichita demo, they sounded great--detailed, accurate, and "big". In particular, I think Wendell is to be complimented for hauling these units around the country and offering to demonstrate them in any and all conditions, with a huge variety of equipment. The fact that they show extremely well in a diversity of environments (I also heard them in Denver at Listen Up) makes an important statement about them: the consumer can be confidant that they will perform well in their particular configuration. If you're comfortable with the size, you need to listen to them. I'm glad I did, and the audience was as well. Good show! |