handymann
Nothing could be further from the truth that a TT has little to do with the sound. The analog chain is much more complex than you are currently appreciating. Do yourself a favor and do some reading provided on this link: http://hifigem.com/ Mr. Merrill will debunk some misinformation which will potentially help you and most any other reader. Lastly, don't purchase a used phono cartridge unless your goal is to own a cartridge that is no longer in production. Why would you do that anyway???
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@handymann
I would read @chakster and @atmasphere posts very carefully if I were you. Other than that, you already have a top notch MC cart, meaning that any change at this level is more a matter of taste and/or system matching. I'm guessing that you've never heard the XV1s performing at its best in your rig. |
@handymann
I forgot to say: if you do decide to ignore @atmasphere and @chakster (which I would urge you not to), @tom_hankins at audionirvana is selling a slightly used Air Tight PC1 Supreme for $4.5k. Sounds like a good deal for a $11k MC cart - one of the best out there.
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Handyman, it’s your money, your ears and your equipment. Do WTF you want. Their are a lot of experienced audiophiles here with the ego to match. Trust me, they make mistakes too. I love my TT and I get gut punched every time I tell someone here it’s a Linn. What I can say is that changes in the TT really can make a noticeable difference in SQ. For me, it was the power supply upgrade. Hugenificant difference. Changing to audioquest leopard TA cable improved SQ to me. And all these smaller changes to my TT have (I think) magnified the difference that my TA upgrade (EkosSE) and cartridge upgrade ( Lyra Etna) made. You have a good cartridge assuming stylus and cantilever are in good shape. There’s never 1 fix and I believe in the synergies of components so make it a process to enjoy and learn from as you search for that SQ that YOU want. |
Handyman, it’s your money, your ears and your equipment. Do WTF you want. Their are a lot of experienced audiophiles here with the ego to match. Trust me, they make mistakes too. I love my TT and I get gut punched every time I tell someone here it’s a Linn. What I can say is that changes in the TT really can make a noticeable difference in SQ. For me, it was the power supply upgrade. Hugenificant difference. Changing to audioquest leopard TA cable improved SQ to me. And all these smaller changes to my TT have (I think) magnified the difference that my TA upgrade (EkosSE) and cartridge upgrade ( Lyra Etna) made. You have a good cartridge assuming stylus and cantilever are in good shape. There’s never 1 fix and I believe in the synergies of components so make it a process to enjoy and learn from as you search for that SQ that YOU want. |
Hey Handyman - if you like the Dynavector 'house sound', I am about to list for sale my
DRT XV-1t with outboard TRON step-up transformer in the price range you're mentioning. Message me for further info. Thanks. |
I agree with tooblue. Although the rewards might not come immediately, and it may require work on your part, I believe $5,000 is too much to spend on a cartridge, when your turntable seems to be a limiting factor(I have to admit to not being a fan of the one Scout[or Scoutmaster], although modified, I heard at a show. It was not very dynamic, or emotion-inducing to me, but may have been limited due to the modifications.). |
Papafrgog, I wouldn't worry so much about what others here say regarding your Linn. First, I got to hear needledrops on PinkFish Media that, to me, showed me that a Linn Lp12 was the best of the bunch, which included an SME and the old Technics direct drive(with mods), among others. The thing is, with music, it's not all an intellectual exercise. In other words, you can get enjoyment from the actual music, unlike some other hobbies, where you worry if you really have the best. Number 2: I heard the Technics SP10 from a well-known audio company, and they also do mods to this turntable. It was not in the same league as a well set up Linn, at least by my standards, which includes enjoying the music, and getting off on it(maybe affecting you emotionally?). |
I agree with mmakshak! A well-setup Sondek is indeed hard to beat! I have one myself, along with two Ariston RD's (the Linn's cousins). And I have kept them all in use, preferring them to today's pricier TT's! Get the best TT you can afford - even if it means skimping on the cartridge. |
I don't want to write a treatise on analog v. digital. I have a Nantise/Lenco turntable with an Ikeda Kai cartridge, a 407 long tonearm, a Star Sound Platter Ground, and a H-Cat X12 current phono stage for analog. For digital I have a Surface touch screen control unit, and for digital, an AMS music server from Archiving Vinyl, an Avarii dac with JFET amplification. My digital sources are all double DSD initially on SACD. There are many differences. For one their sound stages differ. Digital is what the mikes receive and analog is what the recording engineer seeks and is more of what an audience hears. Second, there is more detail in digital, of instrument noises such as more harmonic as well as fingers sliding on strings. Finally, digital has highly defined locations of the sound stage and better high end. But analog is smoother, has more music hall or studio decay, and has more familiar instrument sounds with brass and drums not accurately reproduced. These observations come fro about ten instances where I have both analog and digital versions of recordings. There is no question that digital captures more detail and precise location of musicians and signers and that some of this is not music but it contributes to realism. Vinyl, however, gives more hall decay and sounds familiar.
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I read recently that the most important part of a phonograph system is the turntable, followed by the tonearm, folled lastly by the cart. It doesn't make any sense putting a $5K cart on a $400 TT/Arm. I would recommend selling your two tt setups and buying one new one of the best quality TT and Arm possible and run it with the cart you have now. |
handymannAt $5000 used, you have many wonderful phono cartridge options. Nothing is perfect in high end, so chose something which best suits your preferences. Try a used stone body Koetsu for sheer tonal character or perhaps VDH Colibri African Blackwood Mk.2 series if you cherish speed and dynamics. See if you can borrow something first, if possible. |
On Audioasylum there's a NIB Kondo IOm cartridge listed for $5500. Went new for well over 10k.
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The above post written by itsjustme is spot on. I have a real world example that illustrates his point. The turntable involved in this anecdote is a VPI Prime and when I first bought it, I was having trouble dialing it in. Part of the problem was that I was comparing it with a Technics SL12OO. Direct drive vs. belt and all that. I bought a Phoenix Engineering Eagle PSU and Roadrunner Tachometer, which solved the speed difference between the two TTs. One of my favorite records is Time Further Out by the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with Joe Morello on drums. I am a drummer, Joe and I both studied with George Stone, and I worshipped Joe the way kids will. So much so that I bought and still own a set of Ludwigs just like Joe used. Well on Time Further Out, the recording of the drums is magnificent, so much so that on certain tracks I can hear the air passing through the air port on the top of the bass drum. That is I can hear it with the Prime plugged into the Eagle PSU, or using the SL1200GAE. That is because the speed is held consistent, which can be seen with the Roadrunner tach. At the same time, the speed can be deliberately changed up or down on either TT without losing the ability to hear the air port. But, if I remove the Eagle and the Prime is plugged directly into the wall, even though the bass drum tone does not change, the air port vanishes. With tight control of the power supply flutter goes down and this can definitely be heard on a good TT.
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Table, arm, cart, phono stage/preamp, power amp, speakers, cables, listening room. |