thanks for the help i found a raysonic, interested, i owned one of the players and liked it alot.....i believe for the money it may work or the cayin is also a good choice....i know i have owned one of those too....the almarro looks nice and would love to have one , but the five watt one may not be enough and the others are too expensive, but beautiful i must say...thanks ,,,audiogoners are the best....i turned 91 this year and still love the stuff, i bought sal marantz tubes in the 50s and boy have i had the equipment and toys over the years , the best speaker quad 70s elect., linn turntable 70s, loved threshold amps , ads speakers , up to date the vandersteen were fun , the cayin is the best bang for the buck, no doubt...i have a small system putting together in a new room for me...but i my buddy needs the tubes....i would like them but can't go there...thanks again for listening and me rambling...