Let's talk music, no genre boundaries

@audio-b-dog 

I like that cut. I'll stream them. I have a few Poco albums that I play a lot. To be quite honest, I'm not a fan of genres. That's one of the reasons I moved from the Jazz Aficianado group. They seemed to have a exacting conception of  "jazz," and I just like what I like. You said you aren't a fan of Freddie Hubbard's "First Light" and "Red Clay," but I don't think you'd say they aren't jazz albums. They're just something that doesn't hit you. I just like what I like and no longer worry about it. I used to want to be cool. Now I'm too old to be cool, and I really don't care. 

Well, OK. Not all music is easily categorized into neat boxes but categories can be helpful. If I want to know where a certain artist falls, stylistically, and you say "Hard Bop" , I find that's useful. I compare it to music theory, which is not much use simply as a conceptual framework but as a means of communicating about musical structures between musicians it can be of significant practical value.  

You do seem to have a visceral negative response to classifying music by genres. 

Yes; Freddie Hubbard's CTI recordings are Jazz. 

As a musician, I think you are more aware of the craftsmanship. I can appreciate it, but I don't listen to music to appreciate how good the players are.

I listen for emotional engagement first and foremost. In this regard, someone with relatively little technique may be as "good" as a virtuoso... or even better.  

@mapman ..Thanks for the PR 'screen flood'.... Haven't had one of those in awhile.... *L* ;)  Prefer Seesaw from Search/Lost Chord for the bass opener and the manic laughter myself, but y'know how taste tastes....

@audio-b-dog ....thanks for the Optimist gesture, but tend more as Realist with a pesky Nihilist cloud in tow....

Ever since fElon announced his 'super 'puter project labeled Colossus froze me in place....hoped it was just a sick pun, recalling this little number made when I graduated high school.... 

Not that I want to be a canary coughing in the coal mine, mind you....but with all the bad press AI is getting....this one, at least, has eyebrows raised and fur on ends....

Gets hard to argue when Someone Else has 'fingers' on All the buttons....

"Are we feeling lucky, punks?"

@stuartk 

"I listen for emotional engagement first and foremost. In this regard, someone with relatively little technique may be as "good" as a virtuoso... or even better. "

(I don't know how to lift something from what you said and have a buff-colored background.)

I remember when Bob Dylan said, "I sing better than Caruso." 

Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks" came out at the end of 1968. Nothing had ever been done like it. Not close. Rock n' roll changed with that album, and from what you're telling me, this is where prog rock started. I'm posting a short cut from the album so that you'll know what I'm talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cXIdFxbpIg

@stuartk, @mahgister 

Funny you should talk about my wariness of genres. I was just reading in the book that @mahgister recommended on the origins of thought that humanity is torn between the perspective of the individual and the collective. We are in danger of abandoning the perspective of the individual for the collective perspective. I think I am fighting for the individual perspective which would not favor the collective's definition of genres we can all relate to. The individual would (selfishly, perhaps) lean toward individual experience that would transcend words. This is all very complicated, and I hope I my summary did it justice.

I see it in my writing as the feminine which would favor individual experience versus the masculine which would lean toward the group experience. Except our group experience has been defined by men, and this takes it to another level of complication which is too long for me to go into now. Although, we do need to define species and genuses to have a discussion, I must admit. 

This does have applications to music and art, but more later.