Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

Glad to see the great Joe Farrel get some love.  Fabulous player.  One of my very favorite saxophone players and arguably the best Jazz flutist  of all time.  Left us way too soon. Check your audiophile hats at the door and check out this amazing bootleg of Joe’s quintet with Tom Harrel.  Probably my favorite Tom Harrel on any recording.

https://youtu.be/JxSs5_BNNYo?si=m51YvOAp2GrfrtnU

@maghister,

I didn't have a lot of money growing up either. I would work odd jobs and use the money to buy records. All of the records I bought in high school were classical. I couldn't stand the bubble-gum music on the radio. 

When I got to college friends introduced me to jazz and some of the better pop. I was very lucky to go to Berkeley in the mid-sixties. I saw Sunny Terry and Brownie McGhee several times, once at a party where I was sitting at their feet. Big Mama Thorton sang on the bar in a joint I went to. I went to San Francisco to hear Pharoah Sanders in person. I went to the Fillmore Auditorium to hear Mary Wells and Otis Redding. Plus other interesting rock groups like The Dead. 

I met a girl and she introduced me to the Beatles. I would have danced with her to anything. I introduced her to Stravinsky. Music has been woven through my life since I can remember. 

@mahgister 

Just curious, when you said "no moving jazz element" re: the Stones, did you mean it didn’t "move you" emotionally, or did you mean something else? 

I’d never heard of Leo Ferré, so I typed his name into Google and this was the first result: In 1970, when this song was first released, I was 14. I don’t think I could’ve related to the sentiment or handled the emotional intensity at that age. 

 https://www.google.com/search?q=leo+ferre&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS705US705&oq=leo+ferre&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCggAEAAY4wIYgAQyCggAEAAY4wIYgAQyBwgBEC4YgAQyBwgCEAAYgAQyBwgDEC4YgAQyBwgEEC4YgAQyBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgGEC4YgAQyBwgHEAAYgAQyBwgIEAAYgAQyBwgJEAAYgATSAQkzMTMxajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBR3NOVsW1CXG&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:18900dfd,vid:jB2QFS1osSs,st:0

 

Then i understand you... I moved to Leo Ferré....

If i had known him i would have bought a Marvin Gaye album instead of Rolling Stone...

I did not want to disparage Rolling Stone they were talented but  with no moving "jazz" element for me nor "poetry" for me.... 

 

One more confession. I’ve moved over to Marvin Gaye "What’s Going On." It may not be jazz, but when I first heard it I had no idea what genre it fell into. I’ve listened to it a lot. 

 

@mahgister, 

One more confession. I've moved over to Marvin Gaye "What's Going On." It may not be jazz, but when I first heard it I had no idea what genre it fell into. I've listened to it a lot. 

I was 14 when i bought my only one Rolling Stone album...

Good showmanship, great  musical talents...I listened to it perhaps 2 times  from one song to the last... I regretted buying this perfect  album designed for a certain crowd ( wanted to be rebels) 

No musical interest for me even at 14...

I was from a very poor family and paid for it a high price for me by the way ...

I learned to differentiate music from  perfect musical show...

I apologize i confuse this answer in my haste  about Rolling Stone with another thread not this jazz thread... Anyway, what is said is said...

 

Sorry I strayed. Wife's gone. Blasting Rolling Stones "Let It Bleed." Back to my senses later.

@stuartk

Apparently so...I missed another album I have that he’s on. 

The Jeff Lorber Fusion Guest Artists: Chick Corea & Joe Farrell – Soft Space - Inner City Records 1978

@tyray 

He also played with the likes of Andrew Hill, Jackie Byard and Elvin Jones, so he covered quite a wide range in terms of inside/outside improvisation scenarios. 

@tyray, Angelique Kidjo is a massive world star. I've seen her live twice and she's a force to be reckoned with. She's won a lot of awards, including 5 grammies. I have several of her CDs, including Djin Djin. I also have one of her singing her most known hits prior to Djin Djin. She's a delight to behold. Here she is singing one of her famous hits along with a full symphony orchestra:

https://www.google.com/search?q=angelique+kidjo+youtube&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS945US945&oq=angelique+kidjo+youtube&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB4yCAgIEAAYFhgeMggICRAAGBYYHtIBCTk3MjBqMGoxNagCCbACAfEFYEv4qKZcbDU&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:3e5e0f64,vid:MPo2KemshZ0,st:0

@audio-b-dog @stuartk,

I have 2 albums by Joe Farrell, Joe Farrell / Outback CTI  72’ & Joe Farrell / Upon This Rock CTI  74’

@audio-b-dog

I knew nothing of Angelique Kidjo. I’ve lately been checking out Fela Kunti. And what little I know about her, thanks to your introduction, I think she’s in his league. But that's just me.

@stuartk, @tyray

I have a boxed set of 4 records of a Return to Forever concert with Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, Joe Farrell, and others that I will pull out tomorrow and play. I think I will appreciate it more than I have in the past.

@tyray, stuartk, @acman3

Flora Purim's last name reminded me of the Jewish holiday Purim. I went onto chatgbt and asked what religion she is. She's a Sephardic Jew like me. Well, she has no religious affiliation, so she's really like me. But she was born into a Sephardic household. I wonder if that has anything to do with her spelling. 

I lean a lot into the African "commercial" music like Angelique Kido and King Sunny Ade. I'm just pretty much a world music guy. 

@audio-b-dog @stuartk @acman3,

Guys, I can’t  thank you enough. Chick Corea · Return To Forever · Light As A Feather 1973, Stanley Clarke · Children Of Forever 1973 and a host of Flora Purim albums got past me back then in the day as I was sooo much into the ’FONK’. 

You know, with RTF’s more commercial No Mystery and Where Have I known you Before and with some of Airto’s CTI albums I was more into, even with Flora on those Airto’s albums too. I’ve got some ’new’, nice, fantastic, easy listening music catchin up to do..

As legend has it, Chick told Stanley he better learn how to play the electric bass or he'd have to get another bassist. Stanley was a 'purist' and only played acoustic basses at the time. Interesting.

Side note, did you know in Portuguese Flora ’Purim’ is pronounced Flora ’Pureen’. The letter m is pronounced the same way we pronounce the letter n in English.  

@stuartk, I love that album! It's not printed on great vinyl so I've worn it out several times and have to keep looking for a mint copy. When I was taking classical guitar lessons, my teacher told me that was a great album so I went out and bought my first of many copies. Not that she was a jazz singer, but my teacher also told me what a great singer Donna Summer was, so I went out and bought the best of her. A very sexy lady!

@audio-b-dog 

... and don’t forget the album titled "Return to Forever" with same personnel as "Light As A Feather" ! 

@stuartk, I have a number of Return to Forever albums I haven't played in years, except "Light as a Feather," of course. I'll have to put them on my turntable and give them another listen. 

@tyray, I have so many CDs of Brazilian music, many of female singers. I'll post from time to time. 

Regarding my interest in musical influences, when I was young I taught in a school for kids with emotional problems. I knew my 8th grade history class would never be able to follow a history book, so I decided to have the kids go through the historical process with something they were interested in--rock n' roll. So we went through rock and all its various influences. One of the kids in the school was a savant, so if we were stuck he could tell us the very date on which a single came out and what was on the other side. That exercise made me interested in how music developed, where it came from and what its influences were. I thought maybe it would be easier in Brazil than the U.S., but it doesn't sound like it is.

I'm now listening to Angelique Kidjo's "Djin Djin." It's not jazz. I guess it's African popular music. But it's a great album.

@audio-b-dog 

he said that sax players avoided doing two pieces in a row on soprano. 

I haven’t heard Redman play soprano but one thing I’ve noticed is that not all sax players are equal in terms of the tone they can get out of a soprano. Apparently, it’s not easy to get a round tone out of a soprano. 

@tyray 

Back in the day, "Journey to Love was my favorite" S.C. album. BTW, when I saw RTF, my favorite portion of the show was when Corea, Clarke and diMeola played acoustic solos. 

@jafant, @mahgister, I go to hear jazz at the Soraya Theater at Northridge State University. Great theater! Last year I heard Joshua Redman, Christian McBride, and Brad Meldhau. Great concert. Redman played a piece on soprano sax and before he played the next piece on soprano, he said that sax players avoided doing two pieces in a row on soprano. He was a really charming guy. 

Here is a taste from Cassandra Wilson's album Traveling Miles. She's a very soulful singer:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cassandra+wilson+traveling+miles+youtube&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS945US945&oq=cassandra+wilson+traveling+miles+youtube&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigAdIBCjI3NDQ0ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBYdfoMOho5cb8QWHX6DDoaOXGw&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0e90d619,vid:pNkLVIgaYaY,st:0

@curiousjim 

Lol! Good on yah! Not only am I an album head, but I’m a bass head too. I’ve been a bass head ever since my big baby sister brought home her first James Brown 45’s, and as she got older, albums. As my parents had a ’stereo console’. And of course James Jamerson of Motown too. It also helped that as a kid in music class I picked up the drums. Ahh, those days in the 5th grade of being in a garage band! Although I gotta say, I’m also a big Ray Brown and Ron Carter fan too.

@stuartk 

I saw SC back in ’85 and by then he had a bunch of his own albums out. It was at the Fox Theater in Atlanta and the country at the time was going through some massive snow storms and he made it to the show but his band got snowed in at the airport and he showed up with an old ’stage’ wooden 4 legged round seat stool, an amp, a mic and a cigar and played solo for at least 45 minutes to an hour an jammed so hard he almost tore the place down! Even though he is a thumper, I’ve often admired his melodic side the most. Case in point here: Stanley Clarke "Lisa" Passenger 57 from the 1992 album - Passenger 57 The way he plays the piccolo bass is simply unmatched.

This is the song that got me really getting into SC: Stanley Clarke - Journey To Love - Silly Putty 1975 along with this Jeff Beck ’guesting’ tune entitled Stanley Clarke - Journey to Love - Journey to Love 1975 on the same album.

 

@acman3 

Saw RTF on their Romantic Warrior tour. 

Personally, I still prefer Mahavishnu for Fusion

and when it comes to Corea, his acoustic recordings. 

 

@pippi 

Me to. Simple 3-5 piece jazz is most of what I listen to.

Thanks for the tip.

@tyray 

You put a bug in my eye and now most of what I listened to this weekend has been Esperanza Spalding. This morning I listened to Fred Hersch & Esperanza Spalding, Alive At The Village Vanguard.  (2023)

If they brought this performance to my town I’d get tickets in a heartbeat.

@audio-b-dog,

I’ve never heard of Fado music in Brazil? Maybe I’m wrong? In Portugal yes. I’m not familiar with Maria Rita?

@tyray, thank you for the Brazilian Samba information. In the U.S., we've had many peoples influence the original blues-based jazz. Is that also true in Brazil? Was there any Portugese influence, perhaps from fado? I don't know what other groups settled in Brazil. It all makes me think of the Roma/Gypsy influence on Spanish music. When I was in Spain I went up into a cave to hear Flamenco. And also to a concert to hear El Amor Brujo by de Falla, one of my favorite "classical" pieces. 

@acman3 

There’s also the more mainstream-sounding group with S. Clarke, J.L. Ponty and Bireli Lagrene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8k_wWONq6U&list=OLAK5uy_nOg-crbxqVHoue7lX0JDXOXk0IyhyXRCE&index=2

@tyray 

Thanks for the music education! Keep it comin’!  

@audio-b-dog 

No problem. FWIW, I wasn't attempting to draw you out, simply expressing solidarity. 

@audio-b-dog

The Brazilian Samba Dance:

Samba de Roda is the precursor of Samba originating in the Recôncavo region of Bahia, Brazil, during the 17th century. It’s a cultural tradition combining music, dance, and poetry, with roots in the dances and traditions of African slaves in the area according to UNESCO. The term "Recôncavo" refers to the coastal area surrounding the Bay of Todos os Santos. 

African Roots: 

Samba’s origins can be traced back to the West African traditions brought to Brazil by enslaved people, particularly from Angola and the Congo.

Bahia as a Birthplace: .

The northeastern state of Bahia, where many enslaved Africans were initially brought, became a fertile ground for the development of various samba-related rhythms and dances.

Samba de Roda: .

A crucial precursor to samba was the samba de roda, a circle dance performed in Bahia, which was recognized by UNESCO as a Heritage of Humanity.

Urban Evolution in Rio de Janeiro: .

While originating in Bahia, samba became a prominent urban musical expression in Rio de Janeiro, the then-capital of Brazil, where it further developed into the genre we know today.

Symbol of Brazilian Identity: .

Samba’s infectious rhythm and cultural significance have solidified its place as a symbol of Brazilian national identity and a key element of the Brazilian Carnival.

 

This is a video given/shared with me almost 20 years ago from Randy Roberts: 

Sparrow Roberts

Samba de Roda: Samba Chula from Sao Braz in Bahia, Brazil - John of the Ox and Aluminum Samba de Roda live, ’In the palm of your hand’. 

The Brazilian Worldwide Matrix: https://www.matrixonline.net

'In the village of  São Braz, Bahia, Brazil. A clip from Jorge Pacoa’s documentary, "Samba de Roda na Palma da Mão". For much more:

THE BRAZILIAN Worldwide Matrix — https://www.matrixonline.net — the platform that does what no one else does — connects the vast Brazilian creativity — musicians, writers, filmmakers, visual artists, choreographers and dancers... — from the famous to the unknown genius — to the entire world.'

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@stuartk, I think I shouldn't talk anymore about what I'm writing on this forum. Thanks for being interested, though.

@tyray, thanks for the Brazilian tastes. I'll listen today. I've been listening to Maria Rita, do you know her? Also, I have a question. What part of Brazil does the samba come from?

Hermeto Pascoal and Quarteto Novo - ’Brazilian Octopus’ w/ Gamboa, Théo, Lobo, - Live in black and white film

 

Brazilian Octopus - Brazilian Octopus - 1969 (Full Album)  Turn this up, very loud.

Músicos:

Hermeto Pascoal (flauta)

Lanny Gordin (guitarra)

Olmir Stocker "Alemão" (guitarra)

Aparecido Bianchi (piano, órgão)

Carlos Alberto de Alcântara Pereira (flauta, saxofone)

João Carlos Pegoraro (vibrafone)

Nilson Matta (baixo)

Douglas de Oliveira (bateria)

 

Músicas:

01 - Gamboa (Ciro Pereira/Mário Albanese)

02 - Rhodosando (Hermeto Pascoal)

03 - Canção latina Olmir Stocker/Vitor Martins)

04 - Pavane (Octopus B./Gabriel Fauré )

05 - Como Borboletas (A. Popp/P. Cour)

06 - Momento B / 8 (B. Octopus/Rogério Duprat)

07 - Summerhill (João C. Pegoraro)

08 - Gosto de Ser Como sou (Ciro Pereira/Mário Albanese )

09 - Chayê (Hermeto Pascoal)

10 - Canção de Fim de Tarde (Thereza Souza/Walter Santos)

11 - O Pássaro (Alexander Gordin)

12 - Casa forte (Edu Lobo)

 

 

 

 

 

@audio-b-dog 

Unfortunately there’s currently a movement towards exacerbating rather than correcting the problem. I’m afraid things are going to get much worse before they get better.  Needless to say, this goes way beyond the scope of Jazz or the arts.