Jazz for aficionados
From my imaginary thread called 'The Good Stuff'. I have it on a PentaTone SACD. Loud, if you please!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Vpb9mRsOM Cheers The good stuff is always appropriate. |
Rok, when I retold that Coltrane story, this is the first time I mentioned the 63 Buick LaSabre. It was a convertible, powder blue with a white top. That didn't mean much in the Winter, but never the less, it was a sharp car. I bet you don't remember what a 63 LaSabre looked like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=189Jja2Mikw I really liked cars in them days; didn't you? |
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Rok, my uncle bought a 57 Plymouth Fury in 57, and he wanted to visit some people in Cape Girardeau, MO, which is 117 miles from St. Louis. My older cousin drove us down there and back on a 2 lane highway. We partied with some people he knew until just before daylight, and I climbed in the back seat and went to sleep on the way back. I woke up with the wind whistling past the car like a tornado; I looked over my cousins shoulder at the speedometer, and he was doing a solid 110 on a 2 lane highway. The wind was whistling but the car was rock steady, those high fins functioned like fins on an airplane at high speed. I went back to sleep with the thought that if something goes wrong, I'll never know it. "Christine" was a Plymouth Fury; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koPfEQVo44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZgklIqKG1g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4rv3kMUBf4&list=PLcBCx_cNK4RQgYKg7AyWkgDZW-DLOSPSX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikt5kHFUYcg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWCIZvD7PxY https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1958-PLYMOUTH-FURY-CUSTOM-2-DOOR-HARDTOP-81936 |
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My last two cars have been ford, present car is a Ford Taurus. My dream cars are 56 convertible chevy, and 57 convertible Fairlane 500; those are the one's I lusted for. I can't tell one car from another today, but since I only go to the grocery store and the Doctors office, it doesn't matter. Back to jazz, I was listening to Lou Donaldson, Grant Green, and Baby Face Willette; they really put me in a groove; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFMfAJKUOUE |
I have all the best "Doo Wop" on one long tape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvzNeh4Mq1o&list=PL2t8WTXg8nxNHwndQbud_g5RjTGRSiP73 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IePTH1PWzAs Plus the best of "Johnny Ace" on LP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5rvJKviwaE |
That is the way Johnny Ace went, and so young. His LP is in good shape. I no longer make any great distinction between LP and CD, if the LP I have, which I had before CD is good, fine; if not I think I'll replace it with CD. My LP of "Here Tis" is noisy; I noticed that Amazon has the CD which I will order. |
Milt and Ray: The notes: after giving a short rundown on Milt's career,...... "And Ray Charles is the wonderful, refreshing pianist and saxist known previously as a major "name" (his) in the commercial music field." -- Gary Kramer I wonder if these guys ever go back, read what they wrote, and cringe. Cheers |
"WAR" is a group we touched on a few times, but now I'm giving them a serious listen, which they deserve because they have put out some seriously good music. "Fidel's Fantasy" is my top pick, but there are others that I like almost as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA0b87tWshc This is about ten steps above what we consider "Pop", and it gets my undivided attention. "Papa" Dee Allen – conga, bongos, percussion, vocals (monologue on "Fidel's Fantasy") Harold Brown – drums, percussion, vocals B.B. Dickerson – bass, vocals (lead on "Sun Oh Son") Lonnie Jordan – organ, piano, percussion, vocals (lead on "Lonely Feelin'") Charles Miller – flute, alto sax, baritone sax, tenor sax, percussion, vocals (lead on "Back Home") Lee Oskar – harmonica, vocals The World is a Ghetto" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptIcert_Ra8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dUFin2ORpg |
I have posted Steve Coleman many times before and never got a response. I guess I'm the only one here who thinks he is a phenomenal sax player, composer and arranger who has recorded and released many terrific albums. The driving force behind many of his releases is the great Marvin "Smitty" Smith. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ou3jAsArOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0REofM7-3GU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RNuEIrZcrI With Cassandra Wilson on vocals (she is on a few of his albums) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHaR1v5hJX8&list=PLdyWYly8A7JcZ6kP5UnEL21_NTay6iZx_&index=2 |
Orpheus, when I was in high school, listened to War, still have albums with Eric Burdon. This was one of my favourites back than. https://youtu.be/HDYLVtu9ab0 here is an interesting live video of them, playing in Denmark... https://youtu.be/wln_zQsynNY Paul, Coleman is a new name to me, will take a listen |
Fidel’s Fantasy: Never heard of it before now. The Frogman’s first law must be in effect. Two of my favorites: having JBLs helps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmCCxMp7BE Take your pick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZTJYst1bjM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0uytyTADT8 Cheers |
orpheus10 Steve Coleman has been around the jazz scene since the late 70's. Coleman (now age 63) grew up in South Side Chicago and started playing the alto sax at age 14. He moved to NYC in 1978 and payed his dues playing in the Thad Jones Mel Lewis Orchestra and Slide Hampton's big band among others. In 1985 he recorded his first of which would be 32 albums to date as a leader with his band called The Five Elements The Five Elements has had many changes in musicians over the last 35 years but a couple of the mainstays have been the great Dave Holland on Bass and the great Marvin "Smitty" Smith on drums. Dave Holland reciprocated by inviting Coleman to play on 5 of his albums. Coleman is a boundary stretcher who has songs rooted in "old school traditional jazz based on the blues and swing through the Avant Guard genre. Although I find the bulk of all of his material accessible and not "out there" like Albert Ayler. |
**** Johnny Hodges: The most beautiful tone. **** I generally don’t like “mosts” or “bests”; but in this case it’s hard to argue. Awesome tone. And those glissandos (slides)!! No one has done it like that. https://youtu.be/3l6Ny7pOA5c https://youtu.be/hGZDRQUSMmE |
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Today's Listen: Oscar Peterson -- 1951 20 tracks!!! 5 less than two minutes in duration, only 3 over three minutes. Recorded in 1951 for the Canadian Broadcast Service, in Montreal. Notes by some arrogant, pompous, French nobody. "He plays with taste, and with the knowledge that he was playing to an intelligent audience.".....Although he occasionally takes the easy way,(as in Pennies from Heaven), he generally exercises good judgement". I added a clip of Pennies, maybe someone can tell me what he's talking about. I think I like this 'short and sweet' approach. Done in this case to meet the radio folk's requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-ye3LnJfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uti7hG5vXqw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbp8faF4mjc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qabYzjatHUg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYtWeZXNgKY Cheers |
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Rok, one of the things that made that movie "Christine" so powerful was the music; we didn't have tape players in the car in 57, so you listened to what ever was on the radio, and no matter what your genre of choice was, you heard the "soundtrack" from the movie "Christine" if you listened to the radio. My uncle's Fury was creme and gold. Correction on how fast my cousin was driving, he was doing 120 for over the 100 mile trip, we made it back in 45 minutes. https://www.google.com/search?q=speedometer+57+fury&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS858US858&sxsrf=ACYBGNRck... |
Some Memories and associations: Away from home for the first time at college. Some guys in the next room played this all night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAlVasHbipo On the corner, outside a university hangout in Atlanta, in a crowd, listening to Mohammed Ali rant. This was playing in the drug store / soda shop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKhqL3xS0Dw Anything by these ladies brings me back to C-9-2, Ft Bragg, North Carolina. The year, 1967. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bjMtqpGBw Club Mexicana, Frankfurt, Germany. Year was 1969. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgGHeT9U9g0 Cheers |
Santana was playing when I clicked on your post; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AELE1a-3Bxo He was playing in the background of 1969; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_SOAdAxFfo That was the summer of "Smoke outs" in the park (Forest Park); what a delightful year. "At ease soldier, smoke em if you got em" |
Rok, the effects of psychology, sociology, and economics are intertwined in a fashion that only highly educated people who have studied these things understand. Most people now days start off with answers before they ask questions, and politicians have answers that benefit them personally, which many people believe. My short answer is to begin with economics and proceed from there. One can use "google" for that purpose. |
Greetings earthlings. Pardon the interruption for some music. As periapsis is approached on an increasingly eccentric orbit around your domain, the following seemed worth sharing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfVCCsgbX14 Not only a superb drummer (playing with Miles at 18!) but an excellent composer as evidenced by every single track on his recording “Civilization” recorded with the post-fusion, hard-bop quintet he put together after returning to acoustic jazz and Blue Note (thank you All Music Guide). Difficult to understand why it is out of print. Never the less, many tracks on YouTube and, so, something to sample here. You will not mind how far up in the mix the drums are. Tony was not shy! :-) Hope you enjoy it as much as I have. Ciao. We must be on our way. |
Ghosthouse, I got into jazz in the Summer of 1956 when I lived with my older cousin on the South side of Chicago. That's when the "Southside" was like a city unto itself, and a Mecca for jazz; you could just walk down a neighborhood street and hear the sounds of jazz coming out of open windows. (No AC's; walk peacefully down streets) My cousin purchased the best available current jazz every week. That was my introduction to jazz. The reason I mention this is to illustrate how long I have avidly been listening to jazz. After listening to so many great jazz musicians for so long, a lot of what has followed sounds "Stereotypical" to me; meaning that it sounds like so much that I've heard before, even when it's very good, and what you presented was very good. Tony Williams is a fantastic drummer, but the music sounds like so much jazz that I've heard before. Somehow "Ahmad Jamal" manages to quite often get past sounding like what I've heard before. Ironically, he headed the house band, exactly 3 blocks from where I was living on the South Side of Chicago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOAepSLbohs |
@pjw81563 - Nice to hear from another admirer. I suppose we are really preaching to the choir. For me, I only knew of his reputation based largely on his Lifetime recordings. His post-fusion albums and his compositions in particular were a surprise and elevated my regard for him. @Orpheus - Didn’t realize you had posted until I’d finished remarks to pjw. Honestly, I totally "get" what you are saying about having listened to so much and for so long that many things sound "stereotypical". I can absolutely say that about rock now (most current stuff bores the heck out of me) based on going back, not quite so far as you - but almost. Not having listened to as much jazz as you, there are still quite a few new discoveries but even with my much more limited exposure there’s a lot of the traditional stuff that does not light me up (sounds the same same same to me; i.e., BORING!). The playing by TW’s quintet on Civilization really engages me, however. The songs are strong as are the performances. Of course the energy TW imparts as drummer certainly works for this aging "blues-rocker". If you have suggestions for other recordings you think are like Civilization - I'm definitely interested. THANKS |
Rok, you and I have more than a passing acquaintance with the church and the Bible; that doesn't mean we can't become criminals, but it does put a limit on what we will or will not do. Deprived people become depraved people. Now we're maybe talking about 3rd generation deprived, who are living in the midst of like minded people. They're concept of life is beyond my comprehension, it might be like in that science fiction movie "A Boy And His Dog" There is a distinct correlation between those people, and the fact that you will have to wait in a long line for your "Mega Yacht", and the fact that the line is growing. |
These guys sound better now than they did then. I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkwjOd7MCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltC-O7PDYQ Cheers |
I hate boats (get sea sick easy). My own view of music I suppose is not far from Orpheus. Much of the music both rock and jazz is stereotypical. Great musicians and songwriters are few and it seems more so today as there is so much more garbage out there that you have to dweddle through to get to the good stuff. In the past you had to be decent just to get a record contract. Now anyone who can program a computer thinks they can make music with a total lack of musicianship. But the great ones are still there you just have to wade through more junk to get to them. Rok, you want to listen to trumpet playing check out Seven Steps to Heaven (Miles Davis, Ron Carter, A very young Tony Williams and Wayne Shorter.) I'll never know why Kind of Blue gets all the credit. |
***** I’ll never know why Kind of Blue gets all the credit.***** I imagine because it has good tunes and is laid back. Accessible?? A term I hate when applied to Jazz. Also, the album has a great line up of players. I guess it struck a chord with the opinion makers. I wouldn’t know where to start in naming the best Jazz record. It does not exist. Different takes on two tunes from KOB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiceSi25xJA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3-wvcStsoo Cheers |
Rok, I have both of those on my "play list". This might be the first time they were posted. Somehow Chuck Mangione makes me feel good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N8FA1S-5KU |
