anybody have original recordings of Buddy Bolden??
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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Beautiful! One of my favorite Piazzola pieces and some of the most passionate music ever. Thanks for that. Here's the original from the must have Piazzola record "Zero Hour". Even more relaxed tempo and this time violin instead of cello: https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLK-eutyZMAleP1purAmyN9sp5nDKYbl4e&v=MLD9n70Im10 |
Randy, nobody has any original recordings of Buddy Bolden! I have been curious about Buddy Bolden every since I heard Nina Simon sing about him on one of her albums, but I never sought any information or went any farther than that before today. He was born in 1877 and died in 1931; that means his music, even though it was called "Jass", probably would not have been in my collection, but "youtube" has some tunes that are representative of what Buddy Bolden might have played. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OZNNrT61s8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fezzxFjcfI Enjoy the music. |
Buddy Bolden is considered by many to be the first musician to play what would be considered jazz; the first jazz musician. https://youtu.be/r0viBvfQczI |
This is the absolute ultimate in jazz; it's required that you hear through the worst recording ever made in order to make this distinction. If only a better recording could be found. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0PwxDtN22Y |
Merry Christmas to you and everyone here, O-10. While I'm not sure that I'm prepared to say that that great clip of "Night In Tunisia" is the ultimate jazz, it sure is a great clip. I would, however, be willing to say that an argument could be made that bebop is the central point in the evolution of jazz. To me, the development of bebop is probably a bigger departure from what came before it (swing) than any other earlier or later stylistic move in that evolution. Hard bop is obviously a logical extension of bebop, modal jazz a logical extension of hard bop on its way to free jazz and fusion. Bebop could be seen as the "eye of the storm" and there were probably more "what the fu@k?"'s uttered when first hearing bebop than at any other point; if only because there were probably more jazz listeners at that time than at any other. Even Louis Armstrong, the granddaddy of jazz, famously said "Bebop is Chinese music". From this standpoint, I can understand how one of the greatest bebop performances by the best practitioners of the style could be considered the "ultimate jazz". That clip is fantastic and Bird's solo break alone could make it the ultimate. Another "ultimate" moment: https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLC9h9deIXsDsBiB50lJRZjdPkU51c1gfF&v=h6NCx0wcrC4 |
That picture on the album cover of "Giant Steps" is vividly painted on my memory, I can still remember when I bought that LP. Someone commented negatively on the "stereo imaging" of that LP. When that LP was made "Stereo" was relatively new, and they had albums in "mono" or stereo; stereo LP's cost a dollar more at that time, and I don't recall there being any reference to such a thing as "sound-stage". The present crop of audiophiles will have to take what the get and shut the f--- up; but since they rarely come this close to music, I don't think it should matter. "Trane" was a new step in the evolution of jazz, and with this LP he made a "Giant Step" |
2-11-2016 10:09am Ghosthouse, in some ways, jazz is almost like a religion, especially the standards. Since I'm one of the leading proponents of this faith, I consider it sacrilegious when an artist defiles one of the sacred tunes by playing it all wrong to the extent that the tune loses it's original meaning, and empathy with those who it was meant for. I made that statement to "Ghosthouse" in humor, and I think he would have taken it that way, but what does Frogman say: 12-11-2016 11:41am **** jazz is almost like a religion **** This is true; for some. I would then ask that we consider all the single-mindedness, upheaval, hatred and violence that a strict and rigid interpretation of religion has wrought on humanity. With the exception of the violence and hatred (I hope), I think that the parallels to some of our discussions (?) about music are pretty obvious. The statement I made to "Ghosthouse" was in humor, so I thought; but Frogman's trolly jumped the tracks in a big way on a statement that was made to Ghosthouse; I don't see where he even needed to respond to the statement. Next he says I'm being contentious, after he's jumped in a conversation not even meant for him; how does he know what interpretation the person who the statement was meant for would have made? I don't think Ghosthouse would have taken the statement in that direction. His statement in regard to religion was not my statement, yet he makes this as though it was something I was thinking. Why does he always do this to a statement I made to someone else. When I make a statement to Rok, the same statement could mean something entirely different as when I make the statement to Ghosthouse. But how can Frogman get the right interpretation when the statement is addressed specifically to another person? After Frogman draws me into one of his "diatribes" he wants to keep it going forever, and say I'm the one whose "contentious". I tried to change the subject and the mood, but I didn't succeed; therefore I feel I should give my version of the incident. |
I wanted to make you all aware of what I think is one of the most interesting jazz compositions and jazz statements in recent years. Ted Nash, longtime member of Wynton Marsalis’ "Jazz At Lincoln Center Orchestra" is one of the most creative musicians on the jazz scene today. He composed this work as an eight movement work titled "Presidential Suite" / Eight Variations On Freedom. The inspiration for the work, and each of the movements (variations), was eight addresses or speeches by important US and world leaders. Besides the subject, particularly significant on this US presidential election year, one of the things that makes the work so interesting is that each movement reflects the cadence of each president or world leader’s speaking voice, that leader’s personality and the time in history when the speech was given. The composer is very effective in reflecting these things in the music while remaining true to the spirit and tradition of jazz. Great compositions with some smoking jazz solos by some notable guest soloists. The second of this two disc set features readings by well known actors of excerpts from these speeches. The recording has been nominated for two Grammy awards this year. Highly recommended; especially for anyone who still thinks there isn’t really great and creative new things happening in the jazz world today. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZ850dD0XW7C82HUemCpGzQsy342jf9T (Btw, what was that strange noise? I thought I heard a strange noise in the room next door...) 😳 |
Rok, that is very thoughtful of you. All the best to you too. Happy holidays to all of you guys. It is certainly a privilege to share a thread with you all. Here is my proposition, perhaps the only ’christmas’ album that I have Kenny Burrell ’Have yourself a soulful litlle christmas’ https://youtu.be/CpjgaGVsxu4 https://youtu.be/9vdGG9muNqQ https://youtu.be/3LOa05d5vQo |
Today is Wednesday 21 December 16, three days before Christmas, and all my Santa Claus stuff is complete. Now everyone in the household is out doing last minute shopping. Being home alone is a good time to record vinyl to computer play list. The first record I picked up was "Gato Chapter one Latin America"; he has such a marvelous feel for the music in that part of the world; especially the "Tango". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcqbgVB-U5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w2O0FTujGM I like the scenery as well as the music on the second one. Have a happy holiday. |
jafant - It’s about rabbits...a society of rabbits facing a crisis. BUT there’s a deeper story there for sure. Don’t agree with rok too often about music but will gladly support him on Watership Down. It is excellent. The amazing part to me (if memory serves me well) is that it started as stories Adams was telling his kids while they were taking automobile trips. Sorry to read of Mr. Adams passing. He did live to a ripe old age if there’s any consolation in that. |
Jafant, here is something for those of us who are word challenged; it's a movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1n8E3ntWUg Enjoy the movie. |
Ghosthouse, and Rok, since the both of you are so into the deeper meaning of "Watership Down", I sincerely wish you guys would clue me in on this deeper meaning. I watched the movie, looking for this deeper meaning but didn't find it; won't be the first time something intellectual has eluded me. Could you two highly enlightened intellects, cast a little of that light in my direction so that I might join you. Thank you. |
Since I needed a new cartridge, I took the liberty of giving myself a Christmas present of the "Grado Master 2", and I give it my highest recommendations. I'm enjoying LP's like never before. That also means I will refrain from those lively "new jazz, old jazz" debates. According to Dr. John, that great Louisiana Philosopher; "There are only so many croaks in a frog, so many barks in a dog, so many grunts in a hog, and so many beats in a heart". Seeing as how people younger than me been dropping like flys, I'm going to heed his advice and not waste another precious beat of this week heart of mine. I'm enjoying old jazz that sounds "brand new"; it's so coherent, I don't have to wonder "why did he do that, just where is he coming from"; this music sounds like it was made for me. Speaking of old jazz, I was perusing this double LP of the Max Roach, Clifford Brown Sextet, that is absolutely fantastic; the best sextet ever, bar none. While this is a double LP, you can accomplish the same thing on CD by getting "Study In Brown" plus "Max Roach and Clifford Brown"; that music rates five stars, but I know you already got it. I'm enjoying music like never before, and I know you're doing like wise; Continue to have a happy holiday. |
If you do not mind, I would like to recommend couple of films. I find them both to be excellent. If you guys find the time to see it, would be courious to hear your coments about it. The Oscar winner for 2014, foreign language film, 'The Great Beauty' https://youtu.be/koxRDhAQOpw Maybe the best film ever about pressure society places on us to find a soulmate. 'The Lobster' from 2015. https://youtu.be/vU29VfayDMw |
O-10: I read that book 41 years ago. Senility prevents me writing a book review / report. It was a serious book, which your cartoon movie does not do justice. It will give you a great appreciation of animals and the struggles they face. How the most innocuous and normal things to us, are deadly to them. Dogs, Highways, and farming are just a few. Our pet dog chasing rabbits is funny or cute, but we should think of it, as us being chased by a full grown male lion or even Tyrannosaurus Rex! :) Read it. It's never too late to read. Cheers |
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I'm enjoying LP's like never before.***** I will never understand how you 'audiophiles' can spend a small fortune on Amps, Pre-Amps and 'wire' in an attempt to hear perfection, and then nullify it all by using an ancient technology like LPs as a listening source. Have the clicks and pops gone? How can a cheap $400 per foot piece of wire cause ear bleeding, but the noise and distortion of LPs does not. I need answers!! Cheers |
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That also means I will refrain from those lively "new jazz, old jazz" debates. According to Dr. John, that great Louisiana Philosopher; "There are only so many croaks in a frog, so many barks in a dog, so many grunts in a hog, and so many beats in a heart". Seeing as how people younger than me been dropping like flys, I'm going to heed his advice and not waste another precious beat of this week heart of mine.***** By Jove, I think he has finally got it!!! All answers to Jazz are found in Nawlins. Cheers |
O - I too read Watership Down many years ago...probably on the order of 30. Recollection of details a little vague. I haven't seen the movie you linked to. No idea how faithful it is to the novel (though I have my doubts). Watership Down is not a cutesy animal story a la Disney's Bambi. Rok said in his reply to jafant, "It's about us." That is true. In that regard, it is too complex to have one single message though I'll repeat there is a deeper story there. Rather than say it is about a "rabbit society", I should have written it's about a "rabbit community". Somewhat like Orwell's Animal Farm, Watership Down is an allegory about human society.... though not as narrowly political and I think much more complex, textured and nuanced than Animal Farm. It tracks the pilgrimage of a community of rabbits as they seek a new safe home having been warmed of impending disaster by one of their visionaries. They face many perils and temptations in their travels. There are personality clashes, power struggles, moments of great doubt and crisis. The portray of rabbit society is well-realized...they have their own mythology, a unique vocabulary, and a distinctly "rabbit" world-view. It's a great book and like Rok said, not to late to read. Note to self: Not to late for re-reading, either. |
Rok, "Analog" is not even in the same country as what we knew, neither is the price. Remember all those king of the hill TT's like Dual and Girard; they wont cut it now. When CD first came out, and those "Audiophiles" were saying "What's the big deal"? I thought they were all on crack, or jealous because we had something as good as them, and much cheaper, but it wasn't necessarily so. To make a long story short, it's only worth it when you got a lot of LP's; they can sound new all over again. Every time I think I got almost everything by Less McCann, you come up with something I don't got; can't wait for the review. Enjoy the music. |
Ghosthouse, I really and truly love rabbits; I use to see them in our back yard, I figured they lived under a big bush next door, and the guy cut the bush down, now I got no more rabbits. When I was a kid in the country, there was nothing more fun than chasing rabbits with our dogs. The dogs never caught any, but it sure was a lot of fun; rabbits like to double back on their trail, so no matter how far the dogs went, they always came back. I enjoyed the movie and understood how changes in the environment harmed rabbits and a lot of other animals. Due to a decreasing habitat, I've been told there are coyotes in the city. I just now read where coyotes are killing pets in my neighborhood; hope we ain't got no mountain lions in them there woods. http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2013/12/19/how-to-keep-your-dog-from-getting-eaten-by-a-coyo... After you've read it again, I'll be looking forward to that deeper meaning. |
Coming to you live from Tokyo is the fabulous Yoko Miwa Trio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c28yKNysZF4&list=PLXo3EkqZe8MjoPyL9OYNh8RAs8kHTXhIZ Enjoy the music. |
I once picked up a "Don Cherry " recording in a used record bin. When I got home and found out it was a different " Don Cherry "I was a little upset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmYiJ98o7l4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls1ddrT7HPc |