Dennis, You mean to tell me that you don't have a copy of Hall & Oats "Rock & Soul Part 1" ?!?! This one will take you back to the radio days man! Hall & Oats blanketed the airwaves here in the 80s and 90s. Daryl still has quite a good set of pipes on him to this day! Set the ol' DVR and check out some of the episodes mentioned. He has some newer younger acts on the show that I was not really impressed with but Nick waterhouse was definately a standout in that dept. I liked the Joe Walsh, Sharon Jones, and Toots Hibbard episodes also.
Interconnect with great dynamics and bass slam ,
I recently purchased some Cardas Golden cross sepaker cables. They replaced my Dh Lab Q10s. I replaced the Q10s because i was getting some upper mid freq brightness.
I have Golden Cross interconnects from preamp to amp and from cd player to pre amp. The sound is very smooth and detailed .The bass and mid bass is not as authorative or as tight. The highs are better - more detailed and smooth.
The problem is the sound is almost too smooth the bass is kind of rounded off now .The sound is less dynamic.
My Question is.
Is there an interconnect that could give me back that great bass and dynamics of that i had with the Q10s, without the harshness i was getting. I think i would like to keep the Golden Cross speaker cables and try changing the ICs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I have Golden Cross interconnects from preamp to amp and from cd player to pre amp. The sound is very smooth and detailed .The bass and mid bass is not as authorative or as tight. The highs are better - more detailed and smooth.
The problem is the sound is almost too smooth the bass is kind of rounded off now .The sound is less dynamic.
My Question is.
Is there an interconnect that could give me back that great bass and dynamics of that i had with the Q10s, without the harshness i was getting. I think i would like to keep the Golden Cross speaker cables and try changing the ICs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
505 responses Add your response
@ waxwaves, I believe I will pick you to come visit some time, after I get the krell back!, I fall out of my chair laughing when I read your post!, reminds me of being in a rock band again!, A since of humor is awsome in my book for a friendship!, The Krell getting a oil change,Ha,Ha!,, As a matter of fact, I am drinking a Budice!, Heres to ya waxwaves!, cheers!, BTw, what is zing zang?, I would have been all about the typing girls in skirts!,LOL!, never seen the, live from Daryls house!, sounds good to me, I like Hall and oates!, cheers! |
@ waxwaves, I thought you lived in Tennesee, outside of Knoxsville!,I seen your ad for sale of your mccormic Dna .5 deluxe,, says shipping from Linville, North carolina!, Man-o-man do I love North Carolina!, I have been all over the place in that state!, I love The women around Raleigh!, mmm, Its like 7 women to one man!, I had 2 girlfriends at the same time!, They never met, but yet, I had them many times at the same time!, North Carolina Rocks! |
@ Audiolabyrinth and whoever else wants to see it . Have you Seen THIS A Mximum Mojo Award!! Pretty Glowing Review |
@ Grey9hound, Yes, I have seen that review before, The thing is the 2s is made in austria, the chasiss is made in china,all the entire unit after that is made in Austria!, the cd 2 was cheaper, the 2s is $6,350.00 all day, every day!, They look exactly the same grey9hound, the differences are in the inside., Hey, there is a gentlemen that would like your attention on the 0.8 thread, his name is calvinj, hes cool, He just bought an Ayon 2s just like mine and wanted everybodys opinion on the Tara experience, cheers! |
Hello fellas, it's been a fun weekend here! We have had lots of visitors, so I missed you earlier. Yeah the McCormack Gold Edition amp is awesome, a fine addition to my system. A dream come true actually!! I think that "It's so choice" as Ferris Bueller might say, and like Jmcgrogan2 would say..."it has my speakers in a VICE-GRIP!" Serious musical power and control without any artifacts, nastiness, or overemphasis of sonic detail. Lifelike presentation that is extremely dynamic and precise and at the same time musically satisfying which I love. It presents a real sonic picture that keeps me involved in the performance, especially with good recordings. Bass is incredibly powerful and clean down to the lowest note. I love it! John, after hearing this amp my AudioNervousa has grown stronger. I want full SMcAudio mods to everything!!!LOL! I also picked up a 4 foot Tara Labs Decade power cable for $200. Put it on the DAC-1 to burn in. Too early to tell about it really, but I think it may be an improvement and towards the musical side! I still do not know if this is a high current amp kind of power cable. It may be designed around front end source type equipment???? It will stay on the McCormack REV.A DAC-1 until I figure out it's place in the system. I'm really curious as to what gauge it is. Any input would be welcome! Keith, I live in Roan Mountain, TN and work in Linville, NC. I ship anything I sell on Audiogon from work. I have available all the best packing materials for a professional job and a safe shipment! Yes, The NC high country is beautiful and all the nice folks here make me feel right at home. I am originally from a small town 20 miles north of Knoxville. I slowly moved up the mountain, where it's not so hot in the Summer! Plus we can ski in the Winter! Dennis has a pool, that's a very good thing to have down in K-town. Up here we have a spring fed pond! No diving board... but there is a little dock to jump off of! The water is nice and clean and you're swimming with Catfish, Bluegill, some frogs, turtles, two little watersnakes, a bunch of dogs, and one big orange and white Koy! LOL!! We take the HarmanKardon Go+PlayII, ipod, a tennis ball, a cooler with sandwiches and cold bevs and have a ball! I'll try to post a photo soon. |
@ grey9hound, Really, Its not how long they have the amp,Its how fast we can pay for it!, most likly, the amp will be done, and waiting for our final payment of services renderd and shipping back, 6 t0 10 weeks!, they will be done in 4 weeks!, lets hope my plan of 6 weeks works out!, thankyou grey9hound for getting back to me!, one can go crazy not talking to audiophiles!, cheers! |
@ waxwaves, You are talking my kind of environment!the spring fed pond and all the frogs and fish!,I have been swimming in that kind of setting all my life!, sounds like a awsome time with the beverages and all, I mean beers!, The Decade a/c cable is 12 gauge 15 amp! and should work on any thing you have!, Its not like you have 500 watts class A high current a channel and catching your receptical on fire!, LOL!,, I know your amp is high current!, the a/c cord should be fine on it!, your amp does not require a 20 amp breaker or a/c power cord that is 20 amps!,most likly, it may still sound better on the digital? we will see want we?, cheers! |
Thank You Audiolabyrinth!!! That's what I needed to know man! I wasn't going to put the Tara Decade power cable on the amp if construction was 14 gauge. I've had it in the system since Sat morning (on the dac-1)and I can tell the Tara Decade is a really good power cable. I just switched it over to the modded MCCormack DNA-1 Dlx. I will give my full impressions soon. Yes buddy, I wish today would have been a little bit warmer and sunny here on the mountain. May have been able to enjoy that big pond, instead we stayed inside with the music playing. |
06-10-13: Audiolabyrinth LOL!! Not really!! In my 35+ years in this hobby I have found that what others like may, or may not be what I like. This hobby is a crapshoot at best! LOL!! the outcome should be very adequete! Adam, I hope that your outcome is MORE than very adequate!! LOL!! I think you are already there with all of your McCormack gear. I still remember when Steve McCormack was working for The Mod Squad!! LOL!! I used to own a Mod Squad Prism Signature CDP back in the early 90's......good times!! Happy listening my friend! Indeed, happy listening to all!! |
@ ZD542, As much as I love The Taralabs cables, Its the same as all cables, Its system dependent!, The Decade cables were really good for the money paid new!, Its a cable line from 1995 that was Taras celebration cable of being in bussiness for 10 years, the following year they introduced the one cable, the Decade was the top of the line in 1995, 96, the one, the zero gold 97 till late 2013 or early 2014 when Tara releases their new top cable and a speciality line thats for wide ban amps, but the new top cable will be for the mass componets out there, I hope they still keep the zero and omega cables in the line up!, we will see, maybe Tara will try to come to reality with their cable pricing thats really out rageous!, But I think that about all High priced cables!, Its a cable right!, LOL!, cheers! |
"The Decade cables were really good for the money paid new!, Its a cable line from 1995 that was Taras celebration cable of being in bussiness for 10 years, the following year they introduced the one cable" They were great cables. I had every intention to buy some for my system. The only problem was I compared them to The Two and bought them instead. Go figure. |
@Waxwaves @Audiolabyrinth I am at the pool today. The water is nice and the beers are going down good . The Music sounds Awesome.! I am off on july 4th 5th 6th and 7th. If you could swing it , it would be a good time to come and hit the pool. Got a gas grill hooked up to the gas suplly at the house . We can Grill some food. What do you think ? I would even buy a keg if you both come !!!! |
@c Isochronism,, Hi, Its good to see you!, I have read many of your post and enjoy what you have to say!,, Unfortunally, My Krell 700cx is at Krell right now getting renewed completly!, Its only 8 years old, but I had a bias issue, so what the hell, right!, after all the shipping cost that I am paying, I requested for the amp to come home as new so I want have to bother with caps etc.. latter down the road in a few years!, The JBLs are fine!, LOL!, I just do not get to hear them right now!,, Grey9hounds offer is outstanding!, If I had all my system here, I still would like to go!, forget the audio!LOL!,, Grey9hound is a real gentleman!, He is an awsome member and a asset to us all!,,You have tube componets in your system?,, I have a few questions if you do.,, thankyou Isochronism, happy listening! |
@ grey9hound,, What an offer!, I would have to see if I can, right now it does not look good because of money, Krell may be tring to make me pay $400.00 for a fricken box with fitted foam for the Krell 700cx to be shipped back!, they puposely tore up my reuseable box with professional reuseable shipping material I already had shipped to them!, needless to say, I am very pissed off at the situation!, They may even try to discard the skidd I paid good money for and the rachet tie downs I used, One thing you can believe or my name is not audiolabyinth!, that shitt is not going to fly!, My carrier will not except the amp off the skidd or not rachet tie downed to the skidd, They will have to do what I want or I cannot get my amp back!,, now you see why my earlier post about krell was not good so far, I am hopeing that this issue will be resolved a.s.a.p. and all gos well from there!,, happy listening! |
@Audiolabyrinth Wow, I can't believe they made you build that that crate for shipping, then they want to charge you for a new shipping box. What the Hell? I understand about the finances . It is going to take me a while to get caught up.I have spent money for a new Power Commander for My Vulcan 2000, Viking saddlebags, new diving board, and I had a problem with my sand filter spitting sand in the pool. I Found out the pipe for the laterals was broken. I bought a new valve and new laterals and pipe and put in new sand . Now i am broke ! |
Hey Gents, sorry I have been MIA, looks like I missed out on alot of ACTION! LOL!! I have been busy with all kinds of crap, but there has been music playing most of the time, thank God! First of all, I gotta say the new amp is a serious bad ass and at the same time so pleasant to hear. It is supremely musical(yes.. I said musical, you know, makes you wanna tap your toes or actually get up off your ass and dance around!)and lovely sounding, yet mega detailed, resolute, and powerful too. I feel very involved in the recorded music folks. The McCormack DNA-1 Deluxe Gold edition just has heart and soul man! What else can I say, I love it. It mates so well with my Hales Revelation Three and the rest of the system too. That is what I am really exited about!! @Audiolab, I will admit...the Tara Labs Decade power cable may not have been used for 300hrs on the amp before I moved it from the amp and to the TLC-1 Deluxe outboard power supply. That's because I felt like it's hot sonic signature would probably not cut the mustard with this big amplifier even after break in. Here's the good news Keith!!! It sounds wonderful for digital, preamp, and on the phono amp too. The Bad News: I ascertain that the Decade pc does not have enough "balls" for my power amp. When the Tara Decade was on the big amp, the sound was super articulate with an amazing wide presentation, every instrument, voice, etc separated in its own space. Just an amazing presentation of the tunes! BUT, to my ears it lacked a sense of thickness, bloom, and full-bodied sound in the lower end that we all want. It had awesome tight and deep bass but something was missing down there. There was a THINNESS to the sound that I CAN'T DEAL WITH. I think the design of the cable leans towards a big presentation, a wide/deep soundstage thing that Tara Labs cables do so well. In order to have this type of presentation, IMO, the lower mids and upper bass usually suffers. What we have been describing here on these threads as "full bodied" or warm is the Signal Cable Magic Power Cable that I use with the amp now. I will go so far as to say this pc is "very impressive" for the cost!!! It lacks the beautiful crystalline picture that the Tara Decade pc paints, and yes there is a veil or haze over the music in a way. BUT... it has balls the size of a bull and it gives the full bodied sound the the rest of my Tara Air 1 cabling needs to sound it's best! I really do think the Tara Labs cables are the BOMB! I mean they really can help a good system to sound amazing! They are designed to amaze the listener! I also believe that in order for them to sound best you may need some warmer, more full bodied power cable or interconnect cable thrown into the mix. The full Tara sound in my experience and in my system is almost to hot to handle!! |
I can add to my last post by saying that I do not have a top of the line Tara Labs cable setup with Zero Gold, Omega Gold and Cobalt pc. Not even the One or 0.8. If I did, I would probably be amazed by the "full on Tara Labs sound" with a "full loom" of these great cables that may be the best on earth. I have in my system the lower down the Tara Labs line Air 1 and Air 2 model ics and Air 1 speaker cable. I love what the Air 1 and 2 cable has allowed my system to do sonically! I will say again that my system sounds even better with a well balanced sounding power cable or a warmer more full bodied sounding power cable in the mix. I REALLY LOVE the sound of my system with Tara Labs cables in the speaker cable slot and in the interconnect between preamp and amp spot!!! This is where the Tara cables shine IMO! The LAT International AC-2 MkII power cables I use are very well balanced sounding and quiet, especially with Oyaide rhodium plated connectors. The Signal Cable Magic Power cable I use is a warm and full bodied sounding copper cable with slightly veiled mid range and highs. These 2 power cables seem to give weight and balance were needed, and help to create an extremely enjoyable sound when used with my Tara Labs Air 1 series 2 ics and Tara Labs Air 1 speaker cable that sound very resolving and airy with huge 3d holographic presentation of the music! In summary, I think too much of a good thing is often too much of a good thing! So, maybe a "Full Tara Loom" would be too hot and chaotic sounding for most folks? UNLESS maybe you have 0.8 or higher up the Tara Labs line, which I have not had the pleasure yet. |
@ waxwaves, Very cool write up!, good or bad!, you need the Taralabs the one a/c power cord!, I did tell you that from the beginning!, for your amp, Thou the Decade can handle your amp!, I did tell you up-front it did not have the bass or body!, every thing else sounds great, remember me telling you that!,, sometimes we have to bite the bullet and spend more money on a cable waxwaves!, thats if you want to use Taralabs!, you have alot to catch up too!, there has been three people between the two threads that have full loom Taralabs cables, from the one on down with good effect!, they love them!, and have had the set-up a very long time!, Happy listening! |
@ Isochronism, The reason I asked if you have tube products, Is most likly you would know about tubes,LOL!, I would like to know if you know of any digital players that are none 6h30 tubes players, that use a different type tube all together that can be run direct to amplifier?, and If not, do you know much about modright?, Do you think it may be possible for a mod company like Modright to modify An Ayon 2s player that uses the 6h30 tubes inside to be reworked to use a different type of tubes?,, thanks, Cheers! |
@ Grey9hound, Hi, I met the criteria for return shipping on a triple layerd box with all reuseable material!, Krell thought because of the box was smashed down, they have to charge me $300.00 dollars for their box made for the 700cx!, believe me when I say this!, I bessed them out and told them that was B.S.!, that their box will smash down when they use my rachet tiedowns to return my amp!, and, BTW, they was not going to use my skidd or my tiedowns!, I told them to listen and listen good!, I said, My shipping carrier that I use, Is where my return addresse is for my amp, will in no way accept eanything thats not on a skidd and tied down with rachet tiedowns that is heavy electronics!, And I told them, under NO circumstances do you attempt to send my amp back without it back on my skidd and useing my rachet tiedowns on the amp to the skidd!, I told them of the story from last year, when ups smashed multi-thousand dollar speakers in my moms driveway!, the dealer gave me a refund and then the dealer had to sue ups!, I never got any speakers, just my money back!, that said, Krell said they will do as I asked them, or I will not have them ship the amp back, LOL!, they use ups!, thats why I have them taking the amp to my carriers Dock!, Krell is going to do what I asked they said!, and, At the last moment before shipping back, I will make sure of this my self!, they destroyed my shipping material just to charge me the $300.00 dollars extra!, you better believe for that kind of money, I will use that made for the krell 700cx box 4-ever!, cheers! |