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Just what is “Funk”? For me, the word suggests “dirty” (at least a little), “soulful”, maybe “sexual”. Very relaxed, but deep groove even at faster tempos. That is a good cover of “Higher Ground”; but, for me, that ain’t “Funk”. Funky for sure; very impressive and fun. But..... The feel is not right. It’s too slick, produced. Dave Weckl is an amazing drummer and your son has good taste in drummers. However, the best funk drummers play very little; not nearly as much as Weckl does. For them it’s all about the feel. Overall, the playing is great, but with a California studio sound and feel. Dare I say it...sounds too white. The singer, doesn’t quite get there. Don’t get me wrong it’s good stuff. But, Funk?. Not so sure. But, that’s just me. Funk: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CF4bP6ZubIA |
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@frogman I appreciate your viewpoint and I think you are on to something that flavors several posts regarding, the label "funk." Clearly, I accept a broader definition than others, but honestly as long as we are sharing music I'm good with any post that furthers the conversation and provides an example. Keep it coming. Oh and that Jaco P. post--love it. My bass player son spins the vinyl Jaco Pastorius S/T routinely. JP is one of his bass idols (the other is Marcus Miller). (My kids follow real deal quality players--and they crawl all over new music too that is not has "technical.")
@grey9hound Thanks for the new Wulfpeck link and the DLO3 link too.
@shadorne Great AWB Live link--everybody should love this one. |
Oops previous post should have said "Vulfpeck" instead of Wulfpeck. My bad--apologies to @gre |
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@frogman Great Brecker Bros. link. Thanks, my boys are twins and a lot of fun--currently working out Snarky Puppy "Lingus" bass and drum parts. We live in Dallas so any band that has a whiff of a UNT grad (formerly North Texas State) they are generally interested in hearing more. Pretty cool. |
Great thread! I’ve been a massive funk fan for as long as I can remember (even played for many years in a funk/disco tribute band 16 members strong, 5 singers, full horn section...man that was fun!). Anyway, I like funky music of every description, every era. But for me, in my world, there is a Funk Event Horizon. All that came before was leading up to it, all that came after came out of it. I refer to Zapp’s More Bounce To The Ounce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK6wOG_aDl8For me it is the best pure, and hardest slamming bass/drumline of all time. It could loop for eternity and never stop moving my butt. The guitar playing is awesome, but it’s put over the edge by Roger’s Talkbox performance, which are the funkiest riffs I’ve ever heard. I swear I must have written 5 funk songs just ripping off bits of Roger’s Talkbox improvising because it’s so hooky. |
@prof Rich, welcome to the conversation! Glad to have your input. This has turned into a great resource. Please feel free to keep adding to it. My listening collection continues to grow based on fellow Agon recommendations in this thread.
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Good to see we ain't done yet!;) Here's the J-boys (Jamaica, as in Queens Jamaica, NY!) feat. Lenny White and Marcus Miller. Watch til the end if ya wanna see Marcus REALLY get down!
https://youtu.be/WXMNddc2dIcand here's Marcus 28 yrs later, he just released this last month! https://youtu.be/Nf6GTKHiAlw |
@chazro Thanks for the post. From the first post we now know MM can dance too! I noticed that the video never shows LW dance moves. Funny. Second post--that is great smooth groove--Thumb way up! I'm going to have to buy that one. On Marcus Miller, do you happen to know if the new release is available in vinyl? Back in 2016 I couldn't find vinyl Afrodeezia in the states and ending up buying it from a guy in Africa. |
So, after listening to @chazro's latest posts, I scanned the right column recommends and came across this link--four keyboards, five horns (I think), drum kit, electric bass and guitar--these folks are having fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCopcNpzc60 |
Which then lead me to this Brian Culbertson piece where he plays some tasty trombone and pass offs with the sax player that are worth hearing. Bass player isn't shy either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCopcNpzc60 |
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@chazro I was just listening to Jon Cleary's "Go-Go Juice" thanks to you. Great CD.
@ghosthouse regarding Brian Culbertson--your welcome (I think ;-). I hear you on the packaging--but those boys can play. |
