I should start with speakers. This I know. I’d like to establish a new system.


Returning to a hobby I abandoned two decades ago as life interfered with my personal desires. I’d like to slip back in with a decent package for streaming the likes of Tidal and Qobuz. I’ve relieved myself of all software (vinyl and CDs).

I am currently drifting between horns or BBC sound. Two different worlds, but each intrigue me. Considering Volti Audio with Cary SLI80 Integrated while also Harbeth 40.2 with something like a VTL MB185 Series III. Schizophrenic I know.

Dedicated Room 12’W x 30’L x varied vaulted 11’H.

i’d appreciate any discussion or feedback on my personal dilemma. Opportunities to sample these pairings are not in my immediate grasp, but I can consider travel (SE USA) to educate myself in the process. Budget $20k on used market. TIA

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I used to own the Revel Salon1 for 5 years and have heard the Salon2 a few times. For my ears the Salons are not as fun as the Blades. The thing with the Blades is that the soundstage on that thing is incredible. The aluminum Blade drivers are not my favorite but that soundstage, especially on a long wall placement is the best I have heard. I always have fun listening to the Blades.

In terms of cone drivers, I have not heard anything better than the Zylon drivers in the Yamaha NS5000. The Zylon is similar to Beryllium (BE) in the tweeter of the Salon2. However, while companies like Paradigm can make a BE tweeter and midrange in the Persona lineup, Yamaha is the only company to make tweeter, mid, and woofer from the SAME material. What that means is an incredibly coherent sound, especially when the cone material maybe the best around. Yamaha actually had the first BE tweeter and mid in the 1970’s in the NS1000.

I love the soundstage on the Blades and love the sound of the NS5000. My ideal speaker is a Blade with Zylon drivers. Even the Paradigm Persona 9H with Zylon (instead of BE and the woofer material) would be something special.

Saying all of this, the Blades are great, the NS5000 is great, and the Persona can be made great with some work. I take the NS5000 from this cohort.

@toontrader, when I read @tomcarr 's comment 

Acoustic treatment.

The room will dictate at least 50% of what your system will sound like.

followed by @hilde45 's

If I was in the position of the OP, I do the following:
1. Try to size up the assets and challenges of the acoustics of the room. 
I'd lay hands on whatever gear I can find to listen with.
I'd listen, position, and once some reasonable positioning is established, I'd measure for frequency response.
2. With the information gained above, I'd try to treat the rooms major flaws, focusing first on 20hz to 300 hz, since those frequencies have to be mastered before dealing with the rest of the range. I'd work a bit, next, on 300hz-20khz.
3. Having brought the room to a baseline of decent response, I'd do a bit of research on speakers and amps that will match my tastes and my room.
4. Next, I'd start borrowing speakers or buying, used. I'd get a decent solid state amp (used, hopefully a keeper) that can drive a bunch of speakers.
That would be the "launch sequence" to getting the basis of a good system going, in my opinion.
Sum:
Get the room ready.
-Try speakers and amp.
-Get final speakers.
-Get final amp.
-Figure out how to optimize the rest (preamp, DAC, cables, power, additional   treatments, subs)

I suspect that many of us got the first part of 'Sum' bass ackwards either long ago or too recently to be entirely comfy with, so....

New home?  Lucky....built to a plan of theirs' or yours'?  Make a sketch or copy that area of the plan with door/windows/ac plugs with the ceiling detail(s).  Dimension all.  Have it on phone or laptop when you prowl the B&M's.  Consider the what, where, and why.
Buy used for test purposes; if you absolutely must have a That, work on timing for a demo in situ. Or consider a gently used part of the (never, really) Final Outcome.

Have a great time. ;)  👍😎 J

@hilde45 You have given some great advice

@toontrader let’s circle back on your room dimensions. They could be a real challenge or you could do something really specia. The long wall may very well play into an outstanding fit for large Magnepans like the 3.7i and a sub(s), and something quite different on the narrow end, maybe British and more ’intimate’. KEF F, B&W amd Monitor Audio all offer excellent choices for that application. It really is a unique opportunity.

On the other hand, it think the room is just too long to be well served by a single pair of traditional cone speakers. Horns biggest benefit  is controlled directives, which could make a very small listening window if used on the long wall. Cones might have broader coverage, but thats a lot of room volume for them to fill with the amps being mentioned. 

Your on right path with the Volti's, horns don't require loads of power which helps to keep total costs down. Horns specialize in bringing performers into the room perspective, pair them with some 300B SET amp and you'll have the beginnings of a great system.

 

Starting with speakers is how I've always built systems, matching amp is absolutely necessary at this point. I also like the open baffle suggestions if you're after the performers in room perspective. They may require more from an amp so that's a consideration.

Over many decades I evolved from box to open baffle to horns, horns matched with SET amp is magic for me. Again, the Volti's would be a great initial choice, they're an evolution from Klipsch Heritage, that's saying a lot.