How acoustic and some simple tweaks can cure audiophile disease for small pocket budget

I am not an english speaker...

Thanks for your useful observation...

I made an error in the title thread...

Acoustics in the plural means physical and psycho-acoustical science...

The adjective is not the noun...

My mistake as a very bad english speaker... in french "acoustique" in the singular mode means the science... In english we must use the plural...

Thanks for the rightful observation and important correction...😊

Although some words in some languages are readily used in multiple ways, I am wondering if the members of this forum have made a conscious and collective decision to use the term "acoustic" as a noun, rather than as an adjective, and if so, what does it mean?

First and foremost, I am not taking sides in the above banter, and as someone who has extremely limited abilities in the area of any language other than a North-Eastern United States variant of what once was English, I can only commend those individuals that are even passingly proficient in more than one dialect, let alone language. 

However, this seems like an interesting thread where miscommunication is rampant so I thought I would chime in with a question that has intrigued me for some time. In fact, at the risk of hijacking the thread, I have noticed this issue has popped up several times in this very thread:  

Although some words in some languages are readily used in multiple ways, I am wondering if the members of this forum have made a conscious and collective decision to use the term "acoustic" as a noun, rather than as an adjective, and if so, what does it mean?   I notice that occasionally this term is used both ways in the same post or paragraph, and this possible misuse is definitely far more widespread than just in this thread or by the current members of this particular discussion.

Over the decades that I have been involved in the pursuit of an enjoyable aural experience, although there certainly may be other places unknown to me where this usage appears, this is the only forum where I have encountered the term "acoustic" being used as a thing, and not as a way of focusing attention on the type of something.  e.g. - acoustic performance; acoustic level; acoustic quality; acoustic range, etc.  When used as a noun, I am used to seeing the term "acoustics", as in "the room's acoustics" or, to use both variants in one phrase: "The acoustic properties of this material dramatically enhance the acoustics of the space."  

Perhaps the distinction I am making may be lost on those who prefer to abbreviate most terms to something quicker to type, such as "ship" (noun? or verb?) used to infer a desire for a particular relationship to evolve into something more. This desire to reduce the number of characters typed also potentially reduces specificity, which would seem to run counter to the trend on this forum to wax eloquent on minutiae in the endless search for a perfect aural presentation in the space available to the writer. 

Note that although I no longer possess the ears or the financial wherewithal to as fully enjoy the results of this quest as in past years, I do enjoy and occasionally benefit from the viewpoints and hardware references presented here. I have actually made purchase decisions based on what I have learned while browsing Audiogon threads, and I thank you all for sharing your knowledge, experiences and preferences. 

I would be very interested in an explanation, from both the OP and other forum members of their interpretation of the meaning of the word "Acoustic" in the heading of the OP's opening post as I think it is directly related to his overall point that (and I paraphrase and condense to) "this stuff HERE sounds very different to the same stuff if I put it over THERE, which is very much due to the differing acoustic properties of the two spaces."      

You said above that you will not come back IN MY THREAD MATTER ...

Then you responded to someone else post saying that you did not understand my reaction FORGETTING to mention your constant criticism of my language in the last 26 months..

Now you wish me the worst...You are a great soul it seems...

Am i supposed to stay silent when you describe my reaction to others in your own way out of any context, answer me , what i said is true or not ?

Why repeating the same advice who became a sarcasm or a criticism with time and NO MORE a friendly advice as the first time it could be and repeating it from april 2021 till today ?

Why writing me apology in an email and begining again and again the same critic here in my last two threads ?

Why ?

You have derailled my thread for the second time... Why ?

I am supposed to be "pathetic" because i spoke to you with RESPECT and because i ask explanation to your behaviour ?

😊

I never wished bad luck to anyone in my life... Then i will give you and advice : dont begin to do it...

Pearl clutching is not a good luck.

Pearl clutching is not a good luck. 

You came back again in spite of your excuse...

The last time you polluted my thread with the SAME PATRONIZING CORRECTION was my thread about immersiveness few weeks ago ... Anybody can verify...

You are misleading people here FORGOTTING DELIBERATELY THE CONTEXT of this apparently benign translation of my thread introduction by chatgtp now right here as the FIRST POST ...

You wrote to me a letter of apology long ago the 25 april 2021 because you spoke to me about my english mistakes and too long post at this date ... ( I am not an english speaker and i was pleased by your letter of apology and decided that you will be a friend)

In spite of this letter here you go on for the last 28 months making the same patronizing observations without end and without discussing the matter of my two last threads for example ( only my grammar interest you not the matter of the thread ? ) ...

You then opened the door in my two last threads to trolling and derailment of the thread i begun..

You make this observation about my bad english how many times since your apology letter of april 2021 ?

Are you honest enough to answer truth instead of coming back polluting my thread again WITHOUT discussing the matter i proposed to discussion ?

You said in your last mail that i am "pathetic" because you correct all your customers texts all over the world...I am not a customer ...We are in a public forum here...

I would have accepted this as an "helping hand " indeed , if it was not your usual harassment toward me since april 2021...

Can you confirm that this letter exist, i have it, and that you indeed repeateadly attacked me by the SAME PATRONIZING remarks again and again ? Are you able to say the truth ? Or will you go on pretending in front of all and falsely claiming that you dont understand my reaction after your reoccurring many times harassment ?

Anybody know here that i am not an english speaker , this dont give you the right to harass me , and by the way i am not one of YOUR CUSTOMER...

Then dont come back in my thread again with worst than a lie, a half truth about your behavior toward me, hypocritally claiming that you dont understand and speaking about me so with another people in MY FACE ..

I never refuse "helping hand " from friends, but harassing someone since april 2021, is not giving an helping hand , it is REPEATED SARCASM in subtle way... Opening my thread to the trolls who them mock me unable to see the CONTEXT of your reoccuring "correcting remark"...

You use the same tactic in this thread of mine and the last one...

I dont entertain grudge because I SPOKE MY MIND by the way ...

Must i publish the letter as proof here, or will you go pretending that you dont understand my behaviour IN FRONT OF ALL PEOPLE HERE ?

Will you come back again in few weeks mocking again my post number of words and syntax in spite of your first apology in april 2021 ?

Why do you pretend in front of all that you dont understand my reaction to your derailing of my threads after your reoccurring many times harassment ?

as i say in my last mail to you yesterday,"Are you a friend "? Because friend dont derail and harass other friend threads for 26 months using the same patronizing remarks..

AM I CLEAR enough in my bad english and for sure too long post here, you are right for sure about that from the beginning in april 2021 ? I myself ALWAYS admit truth....

I dont have grudge against you, not even now, i ask you many times , why not being friend ? but you judge me "pathetic" it seems as you wrote in your yesterday letter ...

Anyway friend or not now, dont patronize me anymore, especially if i begin a future thread about something...

IS IT CLEARER ?

Perhaps i must use chatGPT to be understood by you ? Did i need it ?

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Very bizarre. All I did was put the OP’s words into ChatGPT and reposted them. Everyone can witness his/her/their reaction and judge it for themselves. I removed it because it seemed the humane thing to do.

+1 @noromance

Unfortunately, you have reacted in a most spectacular and bizarre manner to both my and @hilde45 posts.

Very bizarre. All I did was put the OP’s words into ChatGPT and reposted them. Everyone can witness his/her/their reaction and judge it for themselves. I removed it because it seemed the humane thing to do.

+1 @wolf_garcia

All of this is essentially unreadable blather...otherwise, it’s fabulous.

Exactly. Because there is content in what the OP says that has value, making it more readable seemed like a kindness but clearly it triggered our friend. 

😊

In the opposite your sentence is very clear to decipher...

All of this is essentially unreadable blather...otherwise, it's fabulous.

i just listened in awe to the cheap speakers M-Audio MV40 typing this...

An album with Charlie Mariano and Sadao Watanabe in duet ...

I never liked these speakers for the last 12 years i owned them ...

i only love them now because , having no more my Mission Cyrus , i created an acoustic corner around them because i had no other speakers and no other choice ..😊

I had my biases , and i never listen to good cheap speakers...

Before this acoustic settlement around them and a few tweaks i thought that Steve Guttenberg exagerated giving them 8 on 10 in his review long time ago...But Guttenbergt was right ...

I was wrong simply because i listened to them with the wrong component in the wrong room... A four inches bass driver cannot be put anywhere without any acoustic devices...

This made me doubt my sanity in ordering the microzotl headphone amplifier or pre-amp for my Sansui power amp headphone out...

I will not say this to my wife who asked me why i ordered the costlier piece of gear i ever bought ...😁

I doubt myself sanity... i hope the microzotl2 will be damn good ...Tomorrow after Fedex delivery  😁

No worries. Thanks.

I reacted to Hilde45 post, because he does this correction about my english minimalistic use repeatedly for more than two years now... He even apologize to me by mail for this in 20021...but to no avail... He goes on and on... Anybody can correct me and i will thank him... But harassment is not helping hand in my book...

But he came back many times instead of discussing my post , criticizing anew the number of words and the bad english etc... In a word he never end patronizing...

He did it few weeks ago again in my "immersiveness" thread.. He stay polite for sure,... But a polite reoccurring correction persisting from april 2021 till today is not politeness anymore... It is pushing on a button ...

He never discussed in good faith the content of my thread... Put yourself in my shoes and think about a patronizing correction which reoccured for more than two years ...

Then after this ChatGPT "helping hand " correction , as he did over and over, i asked him why he did so ... He call me "pathetic"... 😊

Then when i did read your post with a cartoon i reacted perhaps misinterpreting your intention , but after the many corrections by Hilde45 i was less patient with cartoon ...

I apologize to you, if i read you now i see that i misinterpreted your post and you could not have know the harassment of Hilde45 for the last 2 years...

Because repeating many , many times always the same criticism even if he is right (my english is not very good for sure) especially in the last two of my threads, he dis do as opening posts, in a month interval, this is harassment...he never adressed the content of my thread but take fun to patronizing... I dont mock people here , i discussed and i gave ARGUMENTS ... And i dont entertain grudges i spoke my mind ON THE SPOT .

I apologize to you because you post your image at the wrong time without knowing the context of my "twisted" relation with hilde45 ...He is supposed to correct everybody syntax being a corrector ... I believe him , but did he constantly repeat to his customers that their english id bad , their text too long etc repeating this without end? I am not one of his customer that is the point..

My best to you... And my sincere excuse for my insulting post , you do not deserved it... I see it...

@mahgister I was not being sarcastic whatsoever. Acoustic amplification and tuning audio quality by reflecting soundwaves is what you are doing. As I pointed out in my comment, it reminds me of the ear devices. In fact, I experimented with homemade ones myself. The image was the only one I could find to illustrate the devices.

Unfortunately, you have reacted in a most spectacular and bizarre manner to both my and @hilde45 posts.

@mahgister I was not being sarcastic whatsoever. Acoustic amplification and tuning audio quality by reflecting soundwaves is what you are doing. As I pointed out in my comment, it reminds me of the ear devices. In fact, I experimented with homemade ones myself. The image was the only one I could find to illustrate the devices.

Unfortunately, you have reacted in a most spectacular and bizarre manner to both my and @hilde45 posts.

Why acting in such a way the same way for two years ?

Dont you sincerely think that a repeated  negative patronizing  behaviour around someone will not trigger a response ? 😊

Why not discussing with me instead of acting like this ?

I dont want you to go out... I want you to act friendly and as the philosopher you are ...

i will be here in case...

I dont have grudge against anybody here.... But i spoke my mind...

I dont need to take a deep breath... You need to take a deep breadth and speak to me with matter relating to my posts... I will wait... Thanks

I have deleted my posts.

I will not comment on your posts anymore. It is sad how much it triggers you.

I will not comment on any replies to this post.

Take a deep breath, because I am now gone.

I have deleted my posts.

I will not comment on your posts anymore. It is sad how much it triggers you. 

I will not comment on any replies to this post.

Take a deep breath, because I am now gone.

@hilde45 That's sort of awesome! 

@mahgister The acoustics "tricks" remind me of ear cups.