Ddraudt, I bet Troy Signature/Thor was part of the best piano you've ever heard. |
Ddraudt, Almost forgot the Robert Koda K-10 pre amp. In a world of sub par pre amps which exhibit false dynamics and lack of speed. The Koda remains totally coherent with no artificial compression. |
@tbg. Yes they had the power cords and everything was high fidelity. Lol. |
Himiguel, yes on both counts. Also my lowly LSA Statement amp was rocking with its $14,000 power cord and driven by the lowly BMC PureDac ($1790). I know I have a weird distribution of my money in audio. |
Himiguel, Yes the Koda K-10 and Troy were in the system.
I was hearing the current system with and without magnetic power cords and with HF pcs the piano was much much better.
Koda was great but I am way to lazy to get a pre without remote volume
as I'm always changing volume.
Norm and I talk about years past where we both, at some time, installed a motor and belt to volume knob of preamps without remote control.
either that or a long stick ;-) |
Norm, Congrats in putting together an incredible synergy of components in your system. All your choices are indispensable from my experience. |
Ddraudt, Troy Signature/Thor and Robert Koda K-10 allow you to hear the HF pcs to a higher level. The low noise floor platform of Norm's system allows the magic to come thru. |
Himiguel, don't forget that you also drew my attention to the BMC PureDac. After spending 50 years getting half way to the top of the mountain, it is shocking to get the rest of the way in about three years. |
Norm, Yes BMC Pure Dac is a special piece that most folks misjudge due to not having a correct foundation. Very easy to look for euphonic midrange coloration when the foundation is corrupted. Many still don't understand this concept. |
HF UR Powercord UPDATE..i have a little over 100 hrs on the UR to this point and it just continues to improve.there is a wonderful increase to the decay of notes within musical passages. vocals are more real..transients continue to be so tight and fast. there is more 3 dimension to the soundstage. it still amazes me that just when you think your system can't possibly get better...it does with the right component.. |
Calloway, Thanks for the report! sounds like you having fun!
Rick said that the reason the HF pcs make a bigger improvement than the HF cables it that there is much more power to be controlled in power cords than in cables.
I agree with you, and I too am surprised when a system seems to do everything right can be so drastically improved upon.
That is great fun for me!!
ENJOY!!! |
Guys, I entirely agree. I've been climbing toward the peak of audio since the late 1950s and only got out of the foothills about four years ago and think I'm now near the peak. |
Where is the best place to use the power cables? Is Rick planning on a more affordable version? |
Have you guys compared it with other 7k pc cables.
For 7k there are a lot of choices and from reading posts, none of us has ever ventured into this price bracket in pc cables. |
Norm, speaking of the summit don't you miss your Tidals? The black driver versions are somewhat better than the older, white driver versions. |
Linkster, although the ribbon tweeter on the Arcadias is quite good, I do miss the diamond tweeter on the Tidals.
Leicachamp, I put one on the HFC ac filter first, but the amp also was an improvement. There are two lessor pcs, the Ultimate ($6900) and the Ultimate Reference ($11,900). I haven't heard the Ultimate Reference. |
Sale-CT-1E Speaker,Interconnect,Jumpers. I am selling my High Fidelity Cables on Audiogon if anybody might have any interest. |
HF UR Powercord UPDATE:..listened for 2 hrs last night. the palpability of the music is just so amazing with this PC.The individual instruments now stand out so much better. The whole experience is so much more enjoyable. The transients continue to improve and are the best in any system i have ever heard.The music just seems to FLOAT in front of you... |
Calloway, having the whole room light up with these cables, to hear the decay on each note, and to hear background musicians placed where they are and contributing clearly to the music is a place I've not been before.
Leicachamp, I do wonder about the Stage III Kracken ($8400), but have not been able to have one side by side with the HFCs, but I have heard it on my speakers, dac, and amps but not in my room. It does do these things. |
Norm..i agree completely. i have not heard the whole experience sound this good anywhere.. |
Norm, Don't hear the Thor power cable grounded to your Thor Special Edition ground cable that grounds to your Troy Signature/ Thor. Lights out!
The mountain peak just got higher. |
Himiguel, I don't understand what you are saying. |
Calloway, Tbg, I agree! I've had great systems for decades but nothing,
Absolutely Nothing so astonishingly lifelike as with my HF UR setup.
Not just worlds better but unfathomable, and awe inspiring.
Wonderful surprises in every aspect of music reproduction.
I've not heard the Kraken by Stage III but even their Minatour was too hard to bend to connect to my system so i could not use them.
Once I get a HF URR power cord I will try to borrow a Kraken and to find a place where it will fit in order to compare. |
Out of curiosity have any of you tried the the HiDiamond P-4 or the CH Acoustic X-20 power cord? |
Ddraudt, I have heard the Kraken compared with the Minatour in a system with my equipment. It literally made the Minatour sound like nothing but a cheap pc. I have often heard the Krakens with equipment at shows, which sounds great, especially at the last CES with the little BMC speakers and the PureDac.
I expect the Kraken is very good, but that it lacks the technology of the HFC pcs. Were I to have one, I really don't know where I would compare the two. There now is a cheaper version of the Kraken ($8400), the Triton at $6000, which I haven't heard. So both are cheaper than the best HFC pcs. |
Tbg,
Miguel has developed a grounded power cable (I think first of its kind) that elevates the performance of the Troy Signature/Thor, and he was basically alerting you about it. |
HF UR PC Final Update...: with > 150 hrs on the UR the sound is just do die for. all previous accolades continue to improve.....it just allows the music to be SO REAL....Rick truly is a genius with regard to his ability to create these cables...thanks Rick... |
Calloway, how many of these pcs do you have? They are a very slippery slope, I have not heard a Ultimate Reference, but have both Ultimates and Ultimate Reference Rhodiums, which is what I started with. It is ill advised to start at the top and work down! All I can say is "get more." But mainly "welcome aboard and enjoy!" |
Calloway, Tbg, Thanks for descriptions of HF power cable's effect on the musical presentation. I want a bunch of them!!
Rick's High Fidelity products have challenged and altered my understanding of playback possibilities the last few years.
In my attempt to climb that mountain to perfection, HFC has been my Sherpa. |
Ddraudt, had I had the rate of improvement in my sound I've had the last four years throughout the entire time I've been an audiophile, I would be playing with the group I'm listening to.
All of this is fragile and certainly takes time to recover when you move anything. It also invalidates tweaks that you once thought were essential, but it is fun and I love hearing jazz greats in their prime in good theaters in my listening room. This is not just good music, it is real music. |
Tbg, Fragile yes! To get amazing, everything has to be just right.
Rick's HF cables, cords and filters create such improved clarity, detail, dynamics and delicacy that tweaks require either: finer tuning - redesign - or elimination.
The finest tune sounds almost exactly the same as the sound close to that mark.. However, the Finest tune causes more goosebumps.
Elusive . Subjective. Fun! |
4orreal, I received a call from Miguel right after I posted this who clarified what he was saying. Initially, I thought he was talking about the Thor grounding wire from the Signature to the house ground. I did not know his power cords had a grounding wire pittail. |
I want to add that Rick Schultz is a consummate gentleman and professional. I sent him photos of what I thought was a defect in the CT1-E IC's. As he pointed out, the foreign object on the termination was part of the RCA input on my DAC that came out and stuck to the IC when I removed the IC from the DAC. Rick promptly called me and took the time to explain what happened, what the remedy would be and we then proceeded to discuss his cables generally.
A refreshing response in a world where few manufacturers provide decent service.
Kudos to Rick.
Neal |
i could not agree more.... |
Yes, Rick has gone out of his way to be supportive and helpful. A good man who loves to laugh, has a great family and many friends..
He also happens to make the best audio gear I've ever experienced!
Thanks Rick U….Da….Man!! |
@Ddraught. I agree with 100%. Good and refreshing to meet manufactures and people in this hobby with great attitudes and commitment to the music and that have great respect for consumers but more importantly just because they are people. |
Hey guys.
Audiolabyrinth, you thought i forgot didn`t you haha.
Sorry for the late reply but things have been progressing slowly. The exact model opened baffle high pressure horn speakers(now @ 118db sensitivity) i mentioned to you before were only recently revealed - Orelo MkII.
I highly recommend anyone reading this, if they care about sound/speakers and saving money, to check this link below or contact PeterSt @ Phasure or Bert @ BD-designs.
http://www.phasure.com/index.php?board=24.0
There is also plenty of info online regarding the early "Orelo" and more recent "Orelino" design.
Pete |
Tbg, If you had only one HF power cord, where would you put it?
I hope to get one HF URR power cord soon and wonder what your experience told you about placement.
Thanks Dave |
@ Petieboy12003, yes, I did think you forgot to get back to me, to tell you the truth, I forgot myself,LOL!,118 db sensativity, wow! Thankyou for your reply, Happy Listening. |
Ddraudt, if you have the HFC Magnetic Waveguide power filter and I think you do, put it there. After that I am at a loss to make a recommendation. You really should come over to hear this Avari preamp. |
Norm, Avari pre amp ??? Please tell me more. |
While I expected that the CT-1U would be better than the CT-1E, I was slightly skeptical about how much people who have heard both thought the CT-1U was better. I knew that CT-1E was noticeably better than CT-1, but what some people were stating seemed potentially like hyperbole.
Well, I just replaced the IC cables between my phono-pre and preamp, using CT-1U instead of an early set of CT-1E. Other IC cables in the chain to amp are still CT-1E, but the way the new cables created more 'space' around each voice and instrument, along with a slight lowering of noise (since even the CT-1 has an amazingly low noise contribution), and more bass definition, was truly ear-opening. Songs I had thoroughly enjoyed before were captivating me more than I ever thought possible.
I am no longer a skeptic about how Rick has made each step up in IC cables sound markedly better. Previous posters are correct... don't listen to CT-1U/UR if you can't keep them. |
Tbg, Thanks Norm, I'm sure I will travel your way again. Dave |
Juliejoema, Thanks for the report. I liked you descriptions. Glad your enjoying the upgrade.
I agree that the 1E to 1U upgrade is luxurious and surprisingly advanced. As is the 1U to 1UR upgrade.
Ricks HF products are amazing, The astronomical cost of materials, especially on the U, UR and URR lines makes them very pricy, but, the best I've ever heard by far.
How long have you had them playing?
They get better for hundreds of hours. |
Today is the 29th, I just talked to Rick shultz on the phone for an hour!, what a real gentleman, we discussed everything other than just mere cables, like the real difference between balanced and single ended circuits, and resonance control, and how there really is no difference in sound between rhodium plated metal contacts and gold plated contacts, However, His ultimate referance with rhodium power cord has a completly new different dielectric and the conductors are in a helixed configuration that is the main reason of the difference in sound between the standard ultimate referance power cord and the Rhodium plus, very educational talking to Rick, cheers. |
I forgot to add that Rick told me that there is a good bit of benefit between cryo treated and none treated, that the cryo treated was the way to go, He helped me with some decisions I am doing with modds to my digital player, Thankyou Rick!, cheers. |
Please carry on, I wanted to say that Rick is a great guy to talk to, very helpfull, and a gentleman, thats all, I am not tring to hi-jack this thread, I enjoy the passion here, great to read, I like what Rick is doing with power cords, should be one of the best available, Happy listening gentleman. |
@audiogon. Took my thread down. When I said something bad about a product that didn't work and bad service you took the thread completely out and when I find products that are good and a company that gives good service and say it then you take the thread down. Wowww I'm confused. |
@petieboy12003. I totally agree. I come here to see what's good. I found a great cable and better service and now they just took my thread. Wow. A thread was deleted last year because a company gave two of us bad service and the equipment went bad and we got spanked for it lol. OZ really showed us not behave. I got tired of trying cables that didn't work and companies who laugh at me after they sell it to me. I'm going to let people know what's good or what's bad. If I get good service I'm letting you know. If a companies gives bad service. I will let you know. But I guess a better be careful would want to make a big tube advertiser mad and get muted again. We are just sharing what we know. Wow. Please don't put me on punishment audiogon. I will be a good boy. Lol. |
@audiogon. Took my thread down. When I said something bad about a product that didn't work and bad service you took the thread completely out and when I find products that are good and a company that gives good service and say it then you take the thread down. Wowww I'm confused. |
