I must say that I agree 100% with Paz307. Since I first started replacing my system with Hidiamond cables my critical listening of music and theatrical movie experiences has progressed immensely and become more and moe enjoyable. It has been really fun playing old music and I just can't stop enjoying it over and over day after day. Music to me is the way to end an evening. With all the P3/P4's, xlr2, D8 speaker and D9 interconnects my system has never sounded this good. With a few more upgrades and tweeks I can push the envelope to achieve my listening goal and step off the merry-go-round. In the end, you'll listen to the music, and not your system. All I can say is "yes, they do reveal the live show" in my room! |
Highstream, thanks for the heads up regarding the price increase. I just spoke to Robert and ordered a pair of the HiDimond 8 speaker cables and one P3 power cord..I anxiously wait for the arrival. Could be ten days. |
I can't answer about $2K plus cables, but HiDiamond's P3 power cords are on a whole another level - maybe two! - beyond the TWLs (10+, 8+), Teresonic and the WyWires silver (Juice 2). I just got a pair of D8 ICs, which are currently on a cooker, but out of the box they were in some ways, such as clarity and tonality, already beyond the Teresonic Clarison silver, which is no slouch. HiDiamond seems to be one of those cords/cables that's hard to be unhappy about. One thing I found about the PCs in my computer system, though, is they don't like to be a minority.
Because of the Euro's run up against the dollar, Robert has finally been forced to give in and raise prices roughly 20% as of April 7 (or whenever the new *retail* price list goes online). Excellent pricing before then - contact him directly - and it won't be terrible afterward given the sound quality. |
The distributor does not offer an in-home trial. You buy it you keep it. I'm in the market for I/C's and have narrowed my list to, DACT DUAL DI100 (Danish), Sablon Pentela (English), Wywires and Triode Wire Labs(American). If any one knows how these compare to the HiDaimonds, I'd appreciate your feedback. It would be helpful to know how they comapre with more expensive I/Cs in the $2,000 to $3,000 price range. There have been some very positive comments made about the High Fidelity cables. |
After many hours and listening to songs and artist that I have listened to for many years I have come to the following conclusion in regard to HiDiamond Cables over the past 5 months;
I have owned many of the top cable manufacturers, most costing stupid expensive money and in my opinion you must judge cables on what they do or don't do, not what they cost. My system consist of some very good revealing equipment and this is the first cable manufacturer that makes a cable that does not affect my system in any way. The HiDiamond cables are super neutral and do not equalize my system in any way. I am currently running several P3 power cables, XLR3 and the AES Reference digital cable; still saving for the speaker cables. All cables were put in individually and every time I replaced one of my previous reference cables with a HiDiamond cable my system improved. I must admit I am surprised almost shocked how much my system now reveals without any hint of brightness. I now have more resolution but less brightness and I also find myself much more involved in each song. The bass is deeper but more defined with slightly more dynamics then my previous reference cables. It is difficult to explain and the best thing I can say is, I do not analysis may system anymore but instead tap my foot and enjoy. My system is much more involving then it has ever been and for the first time in a long time I am enjoying my system rather than listening to my system. the positive thing people are saying on this thread about HiDiamond is 100% true and trust me, I am not an easy sell. |
@Sabai, I think Joeyboynj is obviousely maybe one of S.R's greatest fans. He has to put down HD even though he hasn't even tried them. Wow. Very unprofessional of someone to do or say things to down a company as highly regarded as HiDiamond. I think that's called trashing. And they have nothing to hide at all. What a comment-lol. |
Unfortunately free in home auditions of cables (or anything else) is the exception, not the rule. Small, direct manufacturers often offer this luxury. To pose a question that implies that Hi Diamond has something to hide is laughable. |
Joeyboynj,
You stated, "What they trying to hide?" I think that there would be long list of companies on your "hide list" that have nothing at all to hide. There are many reasons why companies do not have a loan policy. Using "loaded" language to make insinuations is not very helpful, IMO. This never deterred me at all regarding HD cables or any other audio company, for that matter. Life is an adventure, not an insurance policy. I am very glad I made the choice to try HD cables. They are all keepers in my system. |
Hifial, get the Galileo MPC. Huge improvment. You can audition on FREE from your dealer and see for yourself. That also goes for a Tranquility Base.
Can you audition HiDiamond for FREE in your home?? NOPE!
That was enough for me to pass on them. What they trying to hide? |
since i have not heard the hi diamond cables, i will not make a statement about them.
but i will say that there are many cable s out there. no one has heard them all. so it is a bit presumptuous to make claims about one cable vs all other cables.
even if one says that hi diamond compared to all other cables auditioned gets closer to live sound, it is possible that there is some other cable that does a better job.
reminds me of a stereophile reviewer who (paraphrasing) siad:
"this is the best amp i have heard so far", only to repeat the statement in another issue.
perhaps i should review them. i have reviewed many, already. |
Hi Barcardi - Actually I have recently changed my plans.
With my Synergistic Research Powercell 10 SE Mk.III that I got recently, it came with a 32-amp Element Copper/Tungsten Power cord instead of the Tesla Precision AC power cord. Let me tell you, this newer Element power cord is incredible and out performs the Tesla power cables in everyway. The same way that the Element speaker cable and interconnect line beats the previous Tesla line. I have my doubts now that the HiDiamond can beat this NEW cord from Synergistic.
I have a feeling like I did with the Tesla line years ago that the NEW Element line is going to be a huge success.
I'm going to order one HiDiamond Power 3 power cord and test it against the whole line of new Element power cords from Synergistic. I'm being sent to DEMO in my system Element Hologram A and Element Hologram D and also Element Copper (T2 Equivalent) and Element Tungsten (T3 equivalent). I'm using The Cable Company as my lender.
A full review will follow soon. Thanks ;-) |
Yo2tup...i have been cooking my HD3 pcs for 2 days after getting them . i have an Audiodharma Pro cooker. that 2 day period appears to make a significant improvement. i have not cooked them longer..hope this helps.. |
For the HD owners with Cable Cookers, what durations do you recommend for these cables? I just got a cooker and threw on the HD9 ic's and HD8 sc's. After i evaluate these, I'll cook the aes/ebu and hd3 pc's. Time recommendations from the experienced would be appreciated! |
Hifial,
I am running my HiDiamond cables with the Galileo speaker cells. Everything sounds great -- really great -- but since my system is so refined and resolving I am going to try to get away with selling off the speaker cells to finance cable and tweak upgrades.
If you or anyone else is interested in a set of SR speaker cells please message me. I will give you first dibs when I put them up for sale formally on Audiogon. I will also be selling off my Powercell 10SE MKII soon on Audiogon, in case anyone is interested.
My terms are always free shipping worldwide and free PayPal fees. And my prices are always very attractive. I am not greedy. So, my items usually sell within the first 24 hours. Both 110-volt and 230-volt MPCs will be available for the Powercell and the speaker cells, with the possibility of 230-volt Galileo MPCs of you wish this important upgrade. I just sold my SR Interconnect cells on Audiogon within a few hours of putting them up for sale. |
Bacardi, I would like to ask you for some feedback on some of your Synergistic stuff. I have the Powercell 10 SE MK II and I am thinking of getting a Galileo MPC dual lead for it. Can you describe the improvement of the standard MPC? I am also considering a Tranquility. Can describe the difference between the Basik and the Base. I could get a Basik know but if the difference is worth the extra money I would be willing to wait.
I find the MK II Powercell to be one of the best Conditioners for the money. I also had the Universal Speaker and Interconnect Cells and Loved what they did. I have recently sold both to fund the purchase of HiDiamond cables.
I will be receiving two HD3 Power, one HD2 Balanced, and two HD7 Speaker cables. I will be using the HD3 on my new Merrill Audio Veritas Monos based on the Hypex Ncore NC1200 technology. The HD2 Balanced from my PS Audio PW MK II DAC to the Veritas amps. The two HD7 Speaker cables from the two pairs of speaker output binding posts to the HF and LF binding posts on my B&W 802D speakers. The B&W love to be bi-wired and/or bi-amped. When I had the Synergistic I had them bi-wired with a single run. I had a chance to borrow an extra pair of the Speaker Cells to run two single from the Veritas Demo amp two the B&W and the improvement surprised all who heard it.
I have high expectations for the Hidiamond cables in my system over the Synergistic.
I live in NJ and luckily have no damage from Sandy. But the storm has delayed delivery of the cables and the amps. Once I get everything setup I will post my initial impressions and then after they have some hours on them report back.
If my expectations are met, someday I will try the Galileo Universal Cells with the HiDiamond Cables.
Sabai, do you have the HiDiamond cables with any of the Galileo Cells? If so what are your impressions.
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@Joeyboynj, you may very well say goodbye as I have done. I have kept my Powercell 10 SE, 3 TeslaPlexes and 2 Galileo dual mpc's. I have recently bought a Tranquility Base and Basik which are both amazing pieces.
I think you should try this. Buy a HD Power3 and replace it with your S.R Hologram A or D. Sell the one and buy 3 more Power 3's with the money. Sell the next then move onto the speaker and interconnects. You will see how the HiDiamond league will damper the S.R stuff. It is truly amazing topnotch quality. JUST DO IT!!!!! YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!!!! |
Anybody compare Hidiamond to Acoustic Revive? |
Joeyboynj, I too owned all of the previous top of the line Synergistic Research cables. That is, Apex interconnects, Apex speaker cables, Hologram A & D, Telsa 2 & 3 and Precision power cables.
And I had all of the Galieo mini couplers and the first generation Powercell SE.
It was all very good equipment, but the HiDiamond are better simple as that. Better and without all of the mini coupler wires! And the best thing is, at a lower price! |
The initial 2 HD Power 3 sounded bad 1st 60 hours. Bass was boomy/loose, image wandering, flat soundstage and I was getting worried. I never experienced cables changing so much during break-in. After 60 hours, everything stablized and sound clearing up but I can hear it's still needs further breaking in.
I bought 2 more for my mono amps and was preparing for bad sound but it sounded very very good out of the box. Not sure if problem was poor synergy with my TRL/FIM PCs or just needs a full loom.
These cables work well with both low and high current components. Sound is detailed where I can decipher lyrics that were smeared in the past, I can hear deeper into the music, fast with good dynamics and sound stage further back then I prefer. Tone and texture are ok but hope it will improve with further breaking in. |
i will be putting the last 2 HD3 pcs in my system tonight after cooking them for 2 days. this will give me 5 along with 1-Elrod Statement Gold pc...will report back.. |
I may be swicting from Synergistic Research cables to HiDiamond cables. Synergistic is way too expensive for me and all those upgrades. It starting not to be worth it for me anymore.
Can you guys give me some encourangement in making the leap??? ;-)
And I may be saying goodbuy to Synergistic Research forever. LOL! |
will be adding my last 2 HD3 pcs tonight after 2 days cooking on my Audiodharma Pro cooker..that will make 5 in all with one Elrod Statement Gold on my PS Audio P-10.should be interesting.. |
Bacardi,
You hit the nail on the head. "These cables get you so involved ... that everything else just disappears." I have never experienced this level of involvement and naturalness with any other cables. |
Ozzy,
I have the top HD speaker cables. They were a real game-changer for my system. I would not be without them. |
Ok. I was metaphorically speaking. Common guys/gals. I've had an experience with glass shattering and that's what I was comparing it to. I do believe walking into the room, turning the system on and playing a song that literally gave me the experience with delicacy which gave me the above resemblance. That's all....lol....another instance.....
The movie Battle Los Angeles, the scene where the military were coming out of the house and the aliens were hidden beyond the smoke, the sonic details and effects were like you were there as the cameraman. The aliens start firing streams of electrical charges and the clarity ,ultra detail and dynamics were simply incredible. Basically the best movie for dynamics, soundstage, and knock you off your seat suspense that I've watched so far with these cables in my system.....These cables get you so involved with what is happening on screen in a movie, or with a band playing music that everything else just disappears..... |
I'm still loving all of my HiDiamond Cables. The only ones I have not tried yet is the speaker cables. |
Springbok,
Bacardi's words may be a tad dramatic but I can say they capture the essence of my reaction to my HD interconnects. The experience after swapping in these cables was astonishing, listening now after break in, I never could have imagined. The strongest word I'm willing to use is magical.
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Paz307,
I agree with everything you have said about HiDiamond cables. I have a full HiDiamond loom having switched over from Synergistic Research. The HiDiamonds have been a game-changer for me. There is nothing like them that I have ever found in high end audio. The feelings of naturalness and realness that they produce are not duplicated by Synergistic Research, ASI Liveline, Nordost, Cardas or any other high end cables I have ever owned or auditioned.
I still have some SR products that I run in my system in series with other cables but they are not the core of my system anymore. HiDiamond has taken their place. |
I have been reading this thread on HIDimond cables and wanted to give may opinion on the HIDimond XLR 3 cables which I have owned for slightly over 500 hours. My system consist of a Burmester transport,Berkely dac, Pass Labs mono blocks and various higher end cables that I have tried over the past 30 years. I will not mention the other cable manufacturers because I do not want to anger any other person and to be honest my other cables are very good.
My thoughts on the HIDimond XLR 3 right out of the box or in this case the velvet bag was verey good but as with all cables I wanted to see if the HD cables changed significantly and trust me they did change. I had always felt my electronics was very good, maybe not the best but very good and with 2 XLR 3 cables in may system everything improved. The first thing I noticed as the cables broke in was the voice of the singer on the HD cables was much more clear without being analytical and in fact became more emotional then I had ever heard previously on my system. I have found that on certain songs as the artist is portraying strong emotion it becomes very involving to the point that I forgot I was listening to my system and I felt as though I was at a live concert. We always talk about soundstage or 3 dimensional but what I am talking about is the artist pouring their heart out will standing directly in front of you. I also noticed that all my CD's had became more detailed but again without sounding analytical in anyway. The cymbals shimmer longer, the singers notes hang for what seems like minutes rather than a split second and the intent of the song is now much more complete. Songs that I couldn't stand before are now enjoyable; it's almost like I never heard that song properly before.The bass also has more presence without being in your face and it is as though the bass has better timing.
My thoughts are simple: I believe the HIDimond Cables are having less of an effect on my system then my super expensive previous cables. To say I am happy would be a mild understatement. I have just ordered new HD 3 power cords and a digital reference AES cable and I will give you my thoughts in a few months. I would say I have owned most of the higher end well know brand and for me this is the best cable I have heard by a very large margin. |
Jriggy,
I just put a Power 3 PC into the Tesla Plex SE that is the beginning of my complex front end -- isolation transformer > power regenerator > 2 power conditioners. The results are amazing. There is no going back. |
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Sb10,
It is possible that no one has answered regarding trial periods because it has been asked and answered a couple times. Although, those threads are gone due to unnecessary drama --threads full of accusations and paranoia... Im sure a few of the HD owners, Including myself, would like to avoid that happening again --so I can have a place to hear more about them, as well as comment on further once the cables I have purchased are fully broken-in (slow process on my part these days).
Maybe just shoot WorldWideWholesale(s?) an email and ask directly. They are the NA distributors of HiDiamond and can answer when and where you may be able to find them in your area, or help you with a purchase...
As far as comparisons... Do a search for this brand here and you will see a few brands people have used before settling on the HD's.
Personally, I do not feel I have tried enough PC's to commented further. But the HD PC I have has fit wonderfully into a mix of Wywires, TWL and Sablon. When I can though, I will begin to replace... Although, there are others that have replaced MUCH more expensive cords than I have.
The Power3 is the first 'no trade-offs' PC I have had in my system. I love it and want more.
I hope this helps you some. |
Is this for real or are you putting us on? Glass shatter and tinkle on the ground? Unbelievable. Too bad nobody answers my and Zmanastronomy's questions about a trial period or comparisons to other cables, so we can hear for ourselves what is clearly to the owners of this cable a mystical out-of-body experience...... |
I think I am at my full break-in(500 hours) as I noticed while after a few days, especially my D9 interconnects had just bloomed from recent listening. Almost like an amazing glitter came from my front wall that literally caught my attention. It was like hearing glass shatter and tinkle on the ground as I got goosebumps down my back..WOW..These D9's are simply amazing..... |
Thanks for the description. Sounds similar to what I experienced with my D7 interconnects... |
Bacardi,
I had the very same experience when I installed the D8 in my system. All sonic parameters improved dramatically. The whole musical experience took a quantum leap forward. |
When I installed my D8 speaker cable I had an immediate increase in detail, soundstage, resolution, and more information came through my speakers. As hours passed everything became acurately layed back and never forward. The soundstage gained depth and width well outside my speakers with amazing pinpoint imaging. Im not at the 500 hour mark yet but probably around 350-400. I am still hearing sounds and instruments I never heard before. |
I just ordered D7 speaker cables, how did your D8 sound when you first installed them and during the burn in period? |
Bacardi,
I have the SR speaker cells and will be adding the SR interconnect cells soon. I run them with the HD8 speaker wires. But my system is not typical because I run a lot of speaker elements in series with the HD8 wires:
Integrated amp > ASI liveline > Bybee speaker filters > Cardas Golden Cross > SR speaker cells > HD8 > Bybee Golden Goddess speaker bullets > Joseph Audio Pulsar monitors. Have I missed anything?
The results with the SR speakers cells are an enhanced refinement of all sonic parameters. But the cells are only one of many, many increments in my system. I would not expect miracles from them -- in spite of the marketing hype. What I can say is that they are one positive step in the right direction -- but only one step.
Unless you are getting a trade from SR or a dealer I would advise you to be patient till they come up on the after market. In my opinion the retail price of the cells is way over the top for what they deliver. Pound for pound you will get much better value if you buy used Bybee products. This is all IMO -- and from my personal experience with many SR and Bybee products. |
Has anyone tried the Synergistic research speaker cells on any HD7 or HD8 speaker wire and what were your results in detail. Thx in advance. |
Clyde_crashcup; at about 450-500 hours you will really hear the HD8 speaker wire sparkle. |
Jriggy,
I have had HiDiamond P3 PCs and D8 Speakers for about six months. I agree with your comments "... the detail is amazing. But it is a different sort of detail --not analytical at all, it is pure musical texture. And has the most thorough and complete soundstage I have heard from my system." It really is hard to describe. The soundstage has depth and richness - you might say it is more dense. There is more depth and detail AND more emotion. They reveal so much more of the music and the artist. The improvement is amazing - almost shocking - even before they break in. |
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Can owners/distributor answer: Is there a trial period/or alternatively any place in the Northeast USA to audition them? (I am in Connecticut) |
@Ozzy, I have noticed my overall volume level has increased. Attributing to the cleaner signal for sure. I really noticed it on my subwoofer, almost 10db's more...Of all the cables owned I never had this experience with the volume increase at all.... |
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These HiDiamond cables sound interesting. Is there a 30 day offered on them ?
I use Elrod PC's and love them. Can anyone tell me how the HD's compare ? Thank you. |
Owners and reviewers of the KCI Silkwood plus cables are equally impressed and enthusiastic - at almost half the price the KCIs sound very attractive - anybody compared Hd and KCI ? |
