Help With A Turn Table Upgrade

On paper, the TT15 looks like a great buy.......I've had two friends purchase that table new and for some reason, the tables made quick exit from both their systems..........When I listened to it, it sounded a little thin and uninvolving, but I can't say if it was the table or cartridge etc....

An exciting table coming out is the Oracle Origine at 2K list with arm and cartridge included.........I have a dealer who has ordered one, along with a Delphi MK VI 2nd Gen w/ SME V arm........I think you should be able to get an Origine for around 1600......and it should compete with anything out there in that range......

I would consider a Marantz TT 15 (US$ 1,500), which is made in Germany by Clearaudio. Looks great, it is very stable and low resonance. The arm itself sells for S1,600 if bought separeted, and the cartridge included (Clearaudio Virtuoso - MM) sells for $900. You can buy used without cart for under $ 1000 but you will spend a good money for another cart. 
I have one for about 4 years and recently upgraded the cart for another Clearaudio MC (Concerto $2700) and I can tell you this table handles this cartridge wonderfuly. 
The same table under the name Clearaudio sell for over $2000 without cart.

I'd be reluctant to consider any used phono cartridge.

I agree with Cleeds.  A used TT is OK, but do not consider a used cartridge especially it's history is unknown.  So here are my comments about the three candidates...

As a Traveler owner, I recommend this TT and try and negotiate a lower price without the cartridge. 

The HW-19 is a very nice table but do you know which version it is as its been around since 1984?

Finally, the Rega has a great tonearm but a low cost entry level cartridge with the 2M Red.  So don't expect too much off if you go with the Rega and offer a lower price. 

Good luck.

I'd be reluctant to consider any used phono cartridge.

You might save a little longer and look at the Clearaudio Concept.

traveler ,i would shop used here for a tt .I have had good success