As speaker cable the WE 16g wire took about 7 full days to burn in and as interconnects WE 16g wire took 250-300 hrs to fully burn in. Jet |
I use a cable cooker (2-3 days) so cannot say how long if just playing music. IME, 50-100 hrs should get you 80-90% there. |
Thanks. How many hours of burn in? This should be fun! |
That's the one.
Let us know how you like it. |
Hey guys I wanted to wait for my order before I commented. Today I received from Teresa A Jacobs my WE 16g wire. Address shows Valley Center KS 67147. I believe this is the WE employee you guys were referring to. Right? |
Uh oh, Bob. The real WE 16g wire is sold only by a certain former WE employee (now retired), from NOS. |
Who,is they? China company? I see stuff from China only... |
I ordered some 16g last night. At the least they charged my card so I am quite sure they will ship. |
Looks like the USA source is now dried up. No more offerings. Just the stuff from China. |
Bob, I think the 16g wire is gone, all sold. |
Bill, I just read your remarks on another thread about Western Electrics 16
Gauge wire. I would like to order some off the eBay site I am assuming the color of the cloth makes no difference. I only ask because Jeff Day's site shows a light red cover and I just want to make sure the other colored offerings are the same wire. Bill or anyone? |
Mikirob, I have ordered some 11ga WE stranded to make my two power cords. We will see!
Jet, I did order the Tortuga board! Needs a nice 12v linear power supply however. I purchased an outboard Teradak 12v supply for it. Very good and low priced supply from China. |
John421,
Simple answer is different systems, rooms, ears. They are great in my system, hands down among the best I have ever heard. I do believe they like SET, tubes in general. I cannot praise them enough. In my rigs they replaced extremely expensive silver. At any rate different ears that I respect with different rooms and systems love them better than almost anything else they ever heard or owned and we are talking high priced cables; and even then it is usually a split decision. Best, Rob
P.S. How can you go wrong comparing them against anything you own? Only about $50.00, 1 meter terminated RCA. |
Grannyring, I see this passive remote volume controller:
"LDR3x.V2.1 Passive Preamp Controller" This is exciting.
MAybe start a thread or blog and let us know how it is going.
John421, Which interconnect folks choose seems to be ear and system dependent. Have you built them yet? They are pretty inexpensive. Regards Jet |
Will do Jet still waiting on parts....transformers. This is my first complete build and right now I am sorting out what to do for attenuation. I am leaning towards a Tortuga LDR board with remote and display over a stepped attenuator with motor. |
How are the Belden 8402?Seems like some on this site are not too thrilled? Other sites seem to love them. |
Grannyring keep us posted on your preamp build and perhaps send a schematic our way. Enquiring minds want to know.
Rob keep us posted on your power cord builds. Regards to both you guys. |
Geez Grannyring,
Wish I had your skill. Let us know how that project turns out. I finished making the WE10ga power cord; goes from wall to power strip. So far it is sounding very good. Needs more burn in. It is replacing a Silnote pc which is excellent, if it beats the Silnote. Silnote is really terrific stuff. Best in my system, except for the WE. My wife still likes the Silnote expensive interconnect ever so slightly better than the Belden 8402. Not me. I am now going to build the two WE14ga for the DAC and transport. Then, another WE10ga for the Coincident Dynamo power amp. Right now the Dynamo has a Custom Power Cable Company (CPCC), that I think is really good. Too bad that company went out of business, but the cable is super stiff and I think it created problems for many folks. Best, Rob |
Great. Let me know! I am building a tube preamp using a design inspired by several great preamps I respect. I will need two power cords for it as it is a true dual mono. I want to make these same power cords for it! |
Grannyring, Jetrexpro, Brownsfan, all
I purchased more Western Electric WE10ga, WE14ga, going to build WE10ga power cords first, for wall to power strip using Furutech connection as in Jeff Day Blog. Then, likely WE14ga for transport and DAC. Should be finished by end of week. Best, Rob |
Brownsfan,
That is good news. It must be the Oppo is my guess too. In my office system with Sony DVP S9000ES SACD/DVD/ as Transport, Eastern Electric Mini Max DAC the soundstage is extremely 3-D, wide and deep. For example, on Neil Young, Greatest Hits, "Down by te River" finds the Rhythm guitar projected literally five (5) feet in front of the left speaker along the wall to my Left. Neil is slightly behind the the speakers in the center of speakers, the drummer is at least 5-6 feet back, the bass to the
Right between Young and the drummer a couple feet back. The spread is
Fourteen (14) wide, the width of the listening room. On other cuts you would think the piano is in the room, big like on a Maggie, but to me even better. I used the Sheffield test cd with Doug Sax to test the system. It was A plus in all parameters. Best, Rob. |
Rob, Bill and Jet. I noticed last night that my downstairs Dynamo/Triumph Extreme system was sounding really good, even using my stock Oppo 93 as the source. I have a feeling that the WE14g speaker cables and Belden IC are burned in-- perhaps fully ripened is a better description. One of these days, when it is raining and I can't hike, I'll bring my modwright HAPZ1 downstairs, stick a VU-71 rectifier in the dynamo, and do some serious listening. Last night, the tonality was luscious, excellent detail without a hint of stridency, and no grain. Spatially, the system is about as one dimensional as anything I have heard in the last 25 years. No center fill and no depth of stage, which I think is attributable to the Oppo. Other than that, I was really astonished that the Oppo could deliver what it did.
This system is used primarily for background music during dinner and as a 2 channel A/V system, so it is rare that I actually sit down and listen critically. But I was very impressed last night with how far the burn in process has taken the system. |
Thanks guys,
Your posts are always lluminatining, sheds an interesting light and perspective for sure. I think I'll give the WE10ga some listening time. I have purchased a number of feet of various Gage. Best, Rob |
Thank you Rob. I read the blog and it looks like someone tried two runs of WE16ga for the hot and neutral runs and then wrapped that with some 14ga ground wire. A single run might sound great, but since the wire has to carry a lot of current Grannyring's 10ga or two runs of 16ga might sound even better. Will be interesting to see how Jeff eventually feels about the single run. I'm going to obstain for now since I have so much on my plate with these C3m driver tubes. Jet |
I should add that I built a set of speaker cables using WE10 gauge stranded and tinned. Same exact wire just thicker gauge. I like them even more and they are my main speaker cables now.
I would not use the 16ga cable for power however and suggest the 12 or 10ga.
I have compared the Belden ICs to my WE 16 and find the WE16 to be much better, not a little better, but much better. Mine are shielded and Jeff Day is really missing out on something special. They should be shielded for best sound based on my testing. |
No, but I will now! Still enjoying my WE speaker and IC cables. Best I have heard! |
