@pcrhkr Hi , interesting thoughts on JBL’s and drums. I have some 4312A’s that aren’t really that nice for home stereo. They are paired with Sound Anchor stands in an attempt to recapture my teen years. It was a big disappointment and a waste of funds. I’m totally unversed on the modern Audiophile products like the Everest and such. Of the Old stuff my most impressive experience was with Westlake BBSM -15’s that a friend had in his living room. That being said my thoughts are about “ drum kicks “ and overall bass. My brother is a talented amateur rock drummer with quality gear and I’ve grown up attending rock concerts. At home I’ve had success recreating decent bass that can roll on and off without that one tone boom. But what has been a struggle is that hit you in the chest drum kick. Looking back on a few random live shows I remember Supertramp in a theater remodeled for concerts. I inquired later about the fantastic sound quality and was told “ ATC “ speakers and thousands of watts. Another was ZZ Top outdoor small venue at my local fairgrounds. There were huge JBL arrays hanging from above with thousands of watts of power. The other was Green Day doing the American Idiot tour at a huge indoor arena, again huge power. I’m not that knowledgeable but my guess is there is that threshold with the appropriate speakers and enough power to get the air moving with enough force to hit you in the chest at that distance and create that effect. I hear about overhung and underhung drivers , damping factor within wattage and I kinda get it. My brother that drums takes me to the closed door seminars at his favorite drum shop. I’ve sat there and heard Tommy Aldridge , Carmine Appice and Kenny Aranoff amongst others play and Wow ! Tommy on those oversized Yamahas and Carmine’s brute power on my brothers Tama’s is totally gut wrenching. But in my modestly funded adventures I’ve not achieved that at my house, although the Westlakes I mentioned with 700 wpc bi amped came pretty close. Anyway, just some random thoughts and thanks for your comments. I have a lot to learn. Regards, Mike B.
Footers under new speakers
Hi , I’m seeking advice regarding footers and/or platforms under my speakers. I purchased Tekton Double Impact’s and have heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor. House is 35 years old, cement is thick and well cured. I’m from that old mindset of spikes into cement and I am looking for an improvement. I’ve looked online at Gaia footers and Herbie's Studded Giant Gliders. I emailed Herbie’s and specifically inquired about the studded gliders alone on the DI’s over carpet. I asked about stability and was told the speakers were “ heavy enough “. Unfortunately I just set up the DI’s temporarily to get a little break in time. They are without any footers upright on my carpet. At 115 lbs the speaker does about zero to compress the carpet. I understand weight Vs footprint is abysmal but they won’t even stand straight. I’ll probably put the spikes on for a bit until I formulate a plan. But my first concern is that Herbie’s gliders alone are not enough and due to the minimum cost of the speakers I am struggling with purchasing Gaia’s footers and footer spikes. The seismic stands look exceptional, but I’m trying to be frugal. So I’m looking for suggestions like, gliders or dots with or without spikes on wood / stone plinths spiked to the floor. My goal is to try some sort decoupling (Gliders / Springs / Dots) AND eliminate the need of having to rely on the carpet being compressed. And yes I have cheap speakers and seek a cheap solution, so I get that limitation. Unfortunately I can’t afford Tannoy’s or Fynes to compliment my 180 watt tube mono blocs for at least a year. Cheers , Mike B.
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@prof I wrote a long post earlier in the Thread. On reviewing your supplied Images I can see there are similarities for the methodologies we have selected for a Sub Support chosen for the Speakers. The Backward Tilt is not strange to myself, as nor is the forward tilt. I'm sensing the 'Toe In' is also arranged to be optimised to the listening set up. My set up is in a room that is solely used for Audio Purposes, which leaves me the options to use materials that are not as aesthetically neat finished as your own. We do share a like for similar materials in the assembly of the Sub Support. |
Interesting discussion. I have R11’s and Rythmik F12SE sub on a 2nd floor wood frame house with very heavy cut pile carpeting and padding. My system is jammed with fractions of an inch between speakers, rack (low/long) and sub, so have no room for platforms. Windows and walls limited. |
@signaforce this is a recent video on isolation footers on Steve Guttenbergs channel and I thought it was well done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAOD3aUfIYQ&t=629s |
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