Focal v Wilson


how would folks that have heard both compare a Focal Alto Utopia BE to a Wilson Watt/Puppy 7?

thanks

edelbby

About a year ago I too was considering the Focals and Wilsons. I also added in Sonus Faber as well. I really enjoyed listening to the Focal Alto Utopia BE and the Sonus Faber Amati Homage. But in the end it was the Wilson Audio Alexia's that won me over. In my dedicated listening room  they just simply spoke to me more. I could have easily lived with any of those three quite happily. Perhaps it's my overall system; Conrad Johnson LP275M monoblocks (or my Bryaton 28B-SST monos), Aesthetix Callistio Eclipse preamp, Modwright PH9.0XT phono or Cary DMS-600 dac/streamer. My cables are all Audience Front Row. Three TT's; My room is 22 X 25 with a vaulted ceiling. The Wilsons seemed to need more power and that I had in spades. The Focals and SF Amatis seemed to need less power to get the most out t of them. The Wilson's bass extension is as deep as I could ever hope for. No more using separate subs as I was doing with my Avalon's. I really liked the Avalons but do admit that I am a sucker for a good soft dome tweeter. I feel that Focal does about the best job with a BE tweeter. My absolute favorite speaker of all time is the Focal Grand Utopia, but those cross over into six figures price wise and would not have been feasible. There are so many great speakers available these days. Listen to as many as you can, preferably in your home with your equipment. If it's at a dealer, see if they will let you bring your amp/preamp for the listening session. 

It's true that this particular Wilson has a 2 Ohm impedance dip in the bass, but the Focals tend to not be great there either.  They tend to dip in the "punchy" part of the mid-bass and are unusually sensitive to the current delivery of an amplifier.

The biggest difference however is probably not in the tweeter or bass but in the midrange presentation, and I'd encourage a listen before deciding.

Thanks to all

@8th Note - the MC7270 is solid state - here are specs - can this keep up?

 

POWER OUTPUT
STEREO
270 watts minimum sine wave continuous average power output, per channe,l both channels
operating into 1 ohm, 2 ohms, 4 ohms, or 8 ohms load impedance, which is:
16.4 volts RMS across 1 ohm
23.2 volts RMS across 2 ohms
32.9 volts RMS across 4 ohms
46.5 volts RMS across 8 ohms
MONO-BRIDGE
540 watts minimum sine wave cont inuous average power output into 2 ohms, 4 ohms, 8 o hms,
or 16 ohms load impedance, which is:
3 2.9 volts RMS across 2 ohms
46.5 volts RMS across 4 ohms
65 .7 volts RMS across 8 ohms
93.0 volts RMS across 16 ohms OUTPUT LOAD IMPEDANCE STEREO
1 o hm, 2 ohms , 4 ohms, and 8 ohms; separate terminals
are provided for each output. MONO -BRI DGED
2 ohms, 4 ohms, 8 ohms, or 16 ohms, balanced to ground.
RA TED POWER BAND
20 Hz to 20 ,000 Hz
TOTAL HARMONIC DISTORTION
STEREO
0 .0 2% maximum harmonic distortion at any power level from 250 milliwatts to 270 watts per
channel from 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz, both channels operating .
MONO
0.02% maximum harmonic distortion at any power level from 250 milliwatts to 540 watts from
20 Hz to 20,000 Hz.
INTERMODULATION DISTORTION
STEREO
0.02% maximum if instantaneous peak power output is 600 watts or less per channel with both
channels operating for any combination of frequencies, 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz.
MONO
0.02% maximum if instantaneous peak power output is 600 watts or less for any combination of
frequencie s, 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz.
FREQUENCY RESPONSE (AT ONE WATT OUTPUT)
20 Hz to 20,000 Hz + 0 - 0.25 dB.
10 Hz to 100 ,00 Hz + 0 - 2 dB.
NOISE A D HUM
100 dB below rated output.
RATINGS DAMPING FACTOR
Greater than 30
INPUT IMPEDANCE
20,000 ohms.
INPUT SENSITIVITY
Switchable : 0.75 volt or 2.5 volts-level control provided for higher input voltage s.
POWER GUARD
Clipping is prevented and THO does not exceed 2% with up to 20 dB overdrive a 1 kHz.
GENERAL INFORMATION POWER REQUIREMENTS
120 volts 50/60 Hz; 13 amps.
SEMICONDUCTOR COMPLEMENT
79 silicon transistors
31 silicon rectifiers and diodes
7 integrated circuits
MECHA ICAL INFORMATION SIZE
16 3/16 inches wide {41.1 cm) by 7 1/8 inches high (18.1
cm) by 14 1/2 inches deep (36 .8 cm), including connec­ tors. Knob clearance required is 1 1 /4
inches {3.2 cm) in front of mounting panel.
FIN ISH
The front panel is a combination of glass and black anodized aluminum . The chassis is black.
WEIGHT
82 pounds (37.2 kg) net, 96 pounds {43.5 kg) in shipping
carton .

@8th-note 

Awesome comment about impedance curves.

Never really focussed on impedance curve differences as it relates to different speakers. Impedance curve variety between speakers is enlightning.

I guess biamping might help level the playing field. i biamp b&w 802 d3’s and the dedicated amplifier impact works out really well.

you would be a good person to talk to about impedance issues

 

I would try these new in the box Revel 328be. I have bought from this seller before. Not sure where you are located, these are in Michigan. The 328be is a near perfect speaker with almost no real flaw other than it lacks an exotic cabinet of much more expensive product. It is one of the best box speakers I have heard.

 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650098383-revel-performabe-f328be-brand-new-high-gloss-black/