Musical design amplifiers do pair very nicely with Dale's speakers, a small company, pretty reasonably priced, I have Dale's electronics but did have experience with these for an extended period of time.
Extreme NEWB Questions and Speaker Identification
Actual post is below the picture links, thanks!
https://i.ibb.co/njNFxHh/3-D97166-B-536-A-4-A0-E-A597-64-A686543982.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rs1RmB2/229-A91-A1-5-EF7-4052-8-A7-E-C66-CE6-D7-A9-F4.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/HrXktd6/A60-DA45-E-C090-4-CB7-88-E9-F4-E65970-EEA1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6Wj7rR0/4824-E144-CFF4-4775-84-BF-D1-E449-CF9-EFA.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Wx5LTGh/BAD9125-C-ABA2-4535-A0-C9-02-B774-E4-ACEE.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ygyHTFr/5709-E642-0973-4548-AFB3-05-D97-F5-A2-BB9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vZc7dbV/DF99-B296-99-DA-4-B66-AA08-D0846-BB54428.jpg
So I’m recently new to the speaker game and need some help. Trying to set up a garage space we can use for get togethers etc. I kept seeing a lot of secondhand audio equipment for dirt cheap when I browsed by and sell pages so decided I’d pick up a receiver and some speakers. The receiver I got is a Harmon Kardon AVR 1700. I knew basically nothing about it but it was $20 so I just bought it.
In looking for speakers, I stumbled upon these “Essence” speakers and the only reason I was Interested was because they had a high end “look” to them. Plus they were basically free so I decided to take a chance. When I picked up the speakers, I realized they were huge. 40 inches tall and probably 50 pounds a piece. I was thinking to myself that these had to be a pretty penny in their day. I cannot find any model number on the speakers other than a handwritten number under each of the speaker lids. When I google Essence speakers, I can’t find anything that matches these.
Questions...
1. Anyone know what these are or what they’re worth? They’re in basically mint condition.
2. I’m assuming these are too powerful to use on my “new” receiver. How do I know what power of receiver I need? They had spade wires on them and my receiver doesn’t accept those.
3. If my receiver can handle them, what kind of speaker wire should I get?
thanks for the help.
https://i.ibb.co/njNFxHh/3-D97166-B-536-A-4-A0-E-A597-64-A686543982.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rs1RmB2/229-A91-A1-5-EF7-4052-8-A7-E-C66-CE6-D7-A9-F4.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/HrXktd6/A60-DA45-E-C090-4-CB7-88-E9-F4-E65970-EEA1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6Wj7rR0/4824-E144-CFF4-4775-84-BF-D1-E449-CF9-EFA.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Wx5LTGh/BAD9125-C-ABA2-4535-A0-C9-02-B774-E4-ACEE.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ygyHTFr/5709-E642-0973-4548-AFB3-05-D97-F5-A2-BB9.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vZc7dbV/DF99-B296-99-DA-4-B66-AA08-D0846-BB54428.jpg
So I’m recently new to the speaker game and need some help. Trying to set up a garage space we can use for get togethers etc. I kept seeing a lot of secondhand audio equipment for dirt cheap when I browsed by and sell pages so decided I’d pick up a receiver and some speakers. The receiver I got is a Harmon Kardon AVR 1700. I knew basically nothing about it but it was $20 so I just bought it.
In looking for speakers, I stumbled upon these “Essence” speakers and the only reason I was Interested was because they had a high end “look” to them. Plus they were basically free so I decided to take a chance. When I picked up the speakers, I realized they were huge. 40 inches tall and probably 50 pounds a piece. I was thinking to myself that these had to be a pretty penny in their day. I cannot find any model number on the speakers other than a handwritten number under each of the speaker lids. When I google Essence speakers, I can’t find anything that matches these.
Questions...
1. Anyone know what these are or what they’re worth? They’re in basically mint condition.
2. I’m assuming these are too powerful to use on my “new” receiver. How do I know what power of receiver I need? They had spade wires on them and my receiver doesn’t accept those.
3. If my receiver can handle them, what kind of speaker wire should I get?
thanks for the help.
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1. No bass? Have you looked inside the speakers to make sure the woofers are completely wired up? No bass is not ordinary. The sub-woofer issue has many opinions on this forum--they are interesting and I recommend you read them. Since you are running HT, presumably you have a sub-woofer anyway. If you do, then you should be able to run your system in a 2.1 configuration (the 2 represents "two channel" the .1 represents the "subwoofer"--forgive me if you already knew that--your title says "Extreme NEWB" so I'm trying not to take anything for granted). 2. Don't worry about purism--only you and your family have to live with your audio decisions. I suggest you check out Blue Jeans Cable for all your current cabling needs. They are made well and won't gobble up your audio budget--you probably didn't realize you now have an ever present audio budget :-) 3. I will leave it to others to help you better match a 2-channel amp with your speakers, since I don't have any direct experience with them. It appears Dale Pitcher also made amplifiers, which should match well with his speakers--but they appear to have been very pricey and don't seem to come on the used market very often. It would help if you could find out the power rating on your speakers. Then you could know how many watts you need to make them shine. Your HK AVR-1700 is rated at 100W/channel. If everything is working properly in your speakers--put your ear to each tweeter and woofer to make sure (with the volume at a low level)--then your bass problem is probably because your receiver doesn't have sufficient quality power to drive your speakers properly. Just my two cents. Enjoy the journey. |
Thanks to everyone who responded and helped me identify the speakers. I really appreciate all the help. I’ve enjoyed getting to know the speakers a bit and learning along the way. I’ve learned that I don’t have the right kind of equipment or cables to really do the speakers justice. I’m trying to pick up a few things I need but for now I’ll just have to stick with my Home theater receiver and basic audio cables. I have a couple more questions... 1. These speakers sound absolutely amazing vocally...never really heard anything so pure. However, there is little to no bass...I’m not looking for a crazy amount but there is really none at all ...would you pair these with a stand alone sub woofer? And no I’m not exaggerating when i say there is almost no bass... 2. I know it isn’t a purist way to listen to them, but I’d like to use these as my home theater speakers...what is the best option for cables? I’m going to have to be running an hdmi cable from my cable box to my receiver...would a high quality optical cable be my best bet from receiver to tv? The current optical cable is one of those tiny ones that probably cost $1 and when i tried using the speakers with it, it was about as loud as a whisper on the highest volume setting. So obviously not enough juice. 3. Can someone send me a link for a couple 2 channel amps that would be a good fit for these speakers? Wouldn’t mind getting them second ha d to save a bit of money. Thanks a lot! |
OP, first welcome to the hobby. Second, strongly consider keeping those speakers. In this hobby there can be a significant amount of seller's remorse--when someone has something of high value that they got a great deal on and then leave it behind for something else. I suggest you listen to the speakers first before trying to "flip" them to someone else. It appears you have a bird in the hand.... |
scottwissing you got an incredible deal! lkp1952 is correct. Those are Beryl speakers. And you are correct, they were made by Dale Pitcher when he was in Lincoln. They were made in the early 1990's and sold for anywhere between $2000 to $5000 a pair depending on the deal you got from Dale. I have a pair myself down in the basement in my backup system. My entire main 2 channel system is made by Dale: preamp, amps, external crossovers, speakers, interconnects, and speaker cables. He made incredible stuff. Unfortunately he went off the deep end about 6 years ago with a psychotic break and of course is out of business. Such a shame, he was truly an electronic genius. A salesman who sold a lot of Dale's stuff is Duane Randleman, now with Automated Lifestyles in Bettendorf, Iowa. He would know details about those speakers if you need more info. |
Thanks for responding, guys. I’ve done some research and the speakers were made by Dale Pitcher when he used to be in Lincoln Nebraska. I live just down the road in Omaha, Nebraska. I guess his work is very highly touted and the speakers were sold in a price range I could never afford. Still can’t locate the exact model of these bad boys, though. I ordered some banana spade adapters and hoping to fire them up tomorrow and see how they sound. To be honest, I don’t know enough about speakers to fully appreciate something that was originally multiple thousands of dollars. Hopefully through some research, I can see what they’re worth and maybe sell them to someone who knows more about them. Thanks a lot. |
Can’t find your speakers, but the "essence" logo belongs to Essence for Hi Res Audio. Here’s their website - https://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/home/learn-about-essence-for-hi-res-audio/ They do not appear to make any speakers currently. Maybe they did before and discontinued? Dunno. They are dealers for Acoustic Energy and AirPulse speakers. Notably, some Acoustic Energy speakers are rectangular towers like yours, but they don’t seem to have the cladding that yours have. Good luck. Tell us how they sound. |
Can't find any info of your speakers, since you got the avr1700, why not connect the speakers to it by using a pair of spade to banana adapter for testing: https://2wfvvy29kcc7hrpg91uc91a1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Speaker-Adaptor_... https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-5PRJX74047-Plated-Speaker-Banana/dp/B0097JLRFM |