Ethernet cables


Long time audiophile here but, more of a rookie regarding streaming. My basic question is should I upgrade my ethernet cables and what price point would be reasonable for my application.

The streamer is in a secondary system and is used only for casual listening. The streamer is hardwired to the system. At this point I do not have a streamer in the main system.

Below is a list of the gear in system 2.

The streamer is a Node 2i with the power supply upgrade from LHY (a DIY kit) sourced from Beatechnik out of Singapore. Not using the internal DAC but, feeding the digital signal to an outboard DAC.

DAC - Luxman DA-06

Preamp -  Simaudio P5.3

Amp - McCormack DNA-500 (yes, way overkill power wise for the system but, I love the very relaxed sound of this amp)

Speakers - Dynaudio Contour 30i

Cables - Primarily Transparent Ultra mm2 generation.

Internet is from my cable provider via coax cable.

There are three short cat 6 ethernet cables (5'). One going from the modem to the router, one from the router to the wall connection for a 100 foot cat 7 run in the attic and one at the system end wall connection to the Node. The short cables are Amazon Basics cat 6. The 100 foot cat 7 was sourced from Amazon with one of those never heard of names - Snanshi which, seems to be fairly decent but, I wouldn't really know.

So, do I upgrade the Amazon Basics cables and if so, what would be a reasonable choice?

 

 

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@macg19 60 Hz is not in Snubway’s range.  (200-600 Hz) I would still  give Snubway a try it can help in other ways.  Main Stream is a new plug shipping in July and it addresses lower Hz 20Hz+ line noise. Both are reasonably priced and returnable. 

@macg19 yes and they are designed to work together to eliminate different types of noise.  Preorders are being taken on Mark’s Verafi site now.

@jmeyers I appreciated you posting your experiences with the Shunyata Ethernet cable. Very interesting read. I just have not taken the chance to buy an Ethernet cable at that price level.

Good advice here from @Soix, @audphile1, @Lalitk, @ghdprentice, @ghasley  and others!  If this was discussed I apologize!  I would scrap the wall plate.  It is nothing but a cheap connector stuck in a wall plate.  You can remove the plate, disconnect the wire in the wall from that  and then do much better.  I like the JCAT Net Isolator as a good coupler.  There are others.  For esthetics you can pop out the stock connector and run the wall cable through that hole.  Then I agree the cable from there to the streamer is most important  I use a Muon Pro Ethernet Filter System which has their high end ethernet cables on each side.

@macg19 

I didn’t believe in audiophile Ethernet cables either (just 1’s and 0’s right?) - I had Blue Jeans, and thought I’d try a returnable Cardas Ethernet which surprisingly did sound better, so I ordered a DH Labs and tried them side by side and sent the Cardas back. $200, I felt was well spent. My take was as I know I have a noisy environment, the shielding helped and the connectors are really well made.

i wrote a long post about ethernet cables and EMI/RF noise and filters based on electrical engineering principles - both built-in and external filters that are pure snake oil but unfortunately deleted for some odd reason that didn't make sense at all. anyways good ethernet cables cat8 with good conductors and shielding can make a difference but you don't need to spend $200 to get a nice one. try this amazon link you will be able to find more good cables less than 50. good luck!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VVFB8VX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_31?smid=A1EA54VWB150Z7&th=1

@classicrockfan Thanks. I've had the DH Lab's in my system for quite a few months now and no regrets.  

I am now using a Shunyata Sigma V2 Ethernet cable between my switch And my DAC because of its exquisite noise filtering capabilities and DH Labs Air Matrix  Cryo analog interconnect cables between my DAC and my preamp because of its intrinsic sweetness. 

@jmeyers 

now using a Shunyata Sigma V2 Ethernet cable between my switch And my DAC because of its exquisite noise filtering capabilities ... because of its intrinsic sweetness.

What noise filtering capabilities are you talking about? How can a passive component like an ethernet cable possibly achieve this remarkable audio engineering execution? If it makes sense at all I will present it to the AES, audio engineering society, because it sounds phenomenal and definitely a novel discovery in cable/wire electronics that must be published in a high impact e.e. journal like the IEEE

@classicrockfan you must be a little behind in your reading sir as both common mode noise and EMI is very well documented and that is exactly what is being addressed by the chokes and shielding employed in the Ethernet cable and Muon referred to above.

That said there are much lower cost options available that are even more effective.