Ethernet cables


Long time audiophile here but, more of a rookie regarding streaming. My basic question is should I upgrade my ethernet cables and what price point would be reasonable for my application.

The streamer is in a secondary system and is used only for casual listening. The streamer is hardwired to the system. At this point I do not have a streamer in the main system.

Below is a list of the gear in system 2.

The streamer is a Node 2i with the power supply upgrade from LHY (a DIY kit) sourced from Beatechnik out of Singapore. Not using the internal DAC but, feeding the digital signal to an outboard DAC.

DAC - Luxman DA-06

Preamp -  Simaudio P5.3

Amp - McCormack DNA-500 (yes, way overkill power wise for the system but, I love the very relaxed sound of this amp)

Speakers - Dynaudio Contour 30i

Cables - Primarily Transparent Ultra mm2 generation.

Internet is from my cable provider via coax cable.

There are three short cat 6 ethernet cables (5'). One going from the modem to the router, one from the router to the wall connection for a 100 foot cat 7 run in the attic and one at the system end wall connection to the Node. The short cables are Amazon Basics cat 6. The 100 foot cat 7 was sourced from Amazon with one of those never heard of names - Snanshi which, seems to be fairly decent but, I wouldn't really know.

So, do I upgrade the Amazon Basics cables and if so, what would be a reasonable choice?

 

 

mwh777

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@mclinnguy 

it is a real review from a real electrical engineer

PS Audio Lan Rover

This person wrote that snake oil review as an influencer not as an ee. The only technical line mentioned was "The best part is the inherent galvanic isolation provided by the network." The rest is to praise " has HUGE sonic benefits...  PSA: Quite an elegant sound." I'm not surprised because America is full of dishonest doctors/lawyers/engineers (sadly). Galvanic isolation means "no direct conduction path" to swamp out noise and most DACs have this filtering function built in. So do not get fooled.

These signals are encoded using a technique called pulse amplitude modulation (PAM), where different voltage levels represent different bits of data. The electrical signals travel through the copper wires, and the receiving device decodes them to retrieve the original data.

True ethernet uses PAM where data information is encoded in the amplitudes of signal pulses (modulation) mapped in one of 4 voltage levels -2 -1 1 2 v. Good copy/paste work though.

essentially it is an analog signal

Fundamentally different. Analog signals being continuous/digital signals.being discrete the closer it gets to absolute continuity the better the s.q. but achieving "limit to infinity" not possible although free from signal noise. Watch the following vid and keep up the good work.

 

 

 

@macg19 

I didn’t believe in audiophile Ethernet cables either (just 1’s and 0’s right?) - I had Blue Jeans, and thought I’d try a returnable Cardas Ethernet which surprisingly did sound better, so I ordered a DH Labs and tried them side by side and sent the Cardas back. $200, I felt was well spent. My take was as I know I have a noisy environment, the shielding helped and the connectors are really well made.

i wrote a long post about ethernet cables and EMI/RF noise and filters based on electrical engineering principles - both built-in and external filters that are pure snake oil but unfortunately deleted for some odd reason that didn't make sense at all. anyways good ethernet cables cat8 with good conductors and shielding can make a difference but you don't need to spend $200 to get a nice one. try this amazon link you will be able to find more good cables less than 50. good luck!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VVFB8VX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_31?smid=A1EA54VWB150Z7&th=1

@jmeyers 

now using a Shunyata Sigma V2 Ethernet cable between my switch And my DAC because of its exquisite noise filtering capabilities ... because of its intrinsic sweetness.

What noise filtering capabilities are you talking about? How can a passive component like an ethernet cable possibly achieve this remarkable audio engineering execution? If it makes sense at all I will present it to the AES, audio engineering society, because it sounds phenomenal and definitely a novel discovery in cable/wire electronics that must be published in a high impact e.e. journal like the IEEE