Doozy of an amp question


Still looking for my eternal love.

A forever amp. At least for now. I cannot try them out in my system as they are both beasts and it would be a nightmare getting them, paying for an audition and then returning them

I am having to go on instinct.

I have narrowed it down to two very different kinds of amps at two very different price points. And I have chosen these two because of reviews in magazines and the positive comments here and on other forums.

 

My pre is an Arc Ref 10 and my speakers are Dalis.

I am look at a tube Mc 1502 which I can afford right now or a Sim 861 for which I would have to wait to save for.

I realize it’s tube vs SS but both have their positives and a SS can have tube like characteristics which I like.

 

I’ve heard Mcintosh and liked it a lot but never heard this model.

I’ve never heard Sim but the reviews and comments about the 861 have been absolutely rhapsodic. And somebody whose opinion I trust said Sim is an excellent brand. But is this a flavor of the month model?

 

Has anybody heard both these amps. Any thoughts, opinions, advice?

 

 

roxy1927

There is no way I would spend that much money, perhaps get lucky with used, let a good find be the determinant.

That SIM 861 is 155lbs shipping weight. They have the pair of Mono Block 400’s, shipping 33 lbs each, and that big MC 1502 is very similar to a pair of MC275’s, split the weight, perhaps start with one Stereo, add the 2nd when another pops up.

My right knee has hurt for years, since the last time I lifted my 80lb McIntosh MC2250 out of a low shelf. I think a 3rd meniscus tear.

 

You didn't specify a budget but my forever amps would be the pair of Nagra HD mono's listed on the 'Gon if I could afford them!

I can’t answer your question directly and admittedly have not heard the Macintosh amp. I have heard  the simaudio. I’ve also owned a couple of  SimAudio products and I found them to be very well built, reliable, and competent.

I can appreciate the difficulty you have with in-home auditions. Even if you can’t do that, I suggest you try to listen to these components at a dealer location because I think the McIntosh house sound and the sim  house sound are quite different. it seems likely if you like one, you may not favor the other. The Macintosh amps I have heard tend to be sweet, critics would say dark and veiled, proponents would say musical. The simaudio Amp is more detailed and transparent, critics would say dry and analytical although that would not be my view, I think it delivers to the speaker the signal it receives without coloring it inany way, not a bad attribute for an amp. Although it’s always better to listen in your own set up, I think if you could hear these two components at dealer locations, you could at least get a good read on which House sound you like because they are very different.
good luck!