Calvinj, surely, you are not reaching this conclusion just now! This country has been seriously and sharply divided for at least the last decade, if not more. The loss of civil discourse has been AWOL for quite some time now. What whart and some others have pointed out is true. Our sad state of affairs has brought out the trolls and idiots who are not interested in the truth. They just want to fight, argue and denigrate in order to try to make themselves feel better or superior. I joined this site because I wanted to get guidance, input and recommendations from fellow audiophiles and learn something new as I went along. I also wanted to share what experiences I've had, along the way, in the hopes of helping others, as well. This is a great thread, so far, but there's a tad bit too much cryin' in your beer here. There are still plenty of good, honorable, compassionate, loving people in this old, battered world and I find that most of the audiophile posts I encounter on this site are respectful and well-intentioned. Once you separate the chaff from the wheat (i.e. less knowledgeable pretenders & outright fakes from the honest, truthful audiophiles), I find one is able to get great advice & guidance on this site. That being said, however, nothing replaces doing your due diligence (i.e. hearing it for yourself with your own two or however many ears you have). Peace! Love! Remember those sentiments?
Disagreements and Conflicts between Audiophiles have we lost our brotherhood and maturity?
I looked back over my posts and even my audio business dealings over the last 5 years and it seems like we have lost our ability to peacefully disagree or resolve disputes like grown men. Some of my best friends in this life are audiophiles and I enjoy the gear, the music and the brotherhood. I don’t enjoy the senseless spats. The inability to resolve conflicts and the people trying to destroy peoples business and reputations. Thoughts?
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Calvin, Yes, I agree with your comments and post. When a member asks others for their opinion on something there is always a group of folks (experts) who need to lambaste that person and shoot down their experience. These negative encounters have trained me NOT to engage with this group as much as I have in the past. Most threads that I may have something valuable to contribute to I just pass over due to the expected negative feedback..... |
We all hear differently, enjoy many different genres of music & like many different aspects of hifi systems. Opinions & tastes cannot be right or wrong & anyone who’s married or been in a relationship for any length of time knows this well. I’m guessing the average age of most people on this site is 50+ so we grew up w/ no or minimal internet, computers, cell phones & social media. Thus we all should know how to reasonably communicate in a sane & cordial manner having to do so directly or at least over the phone & probably know that we can learn from anyone I’ve had a good or very good system since I was a teenager as time & money permitted some of which I built or modified & some just stock. I was in the pro sound industry many years ago & learned a lot then. Some aspects of music reproduction I’m very familiar with & some, especially digital & streaming, not very much. I’ve learned a lot from many folks here, try to contribute occasionally & really appreciate & respect the knowledge & experience of many contributors. I just ignore or chuckle at those who want to make this an ego contest. They have to live w/ themselves which is punishment enough… |
I think the responses in this thread show us how strong the community is here at Audiogon especially. @052rc I agree most of the people OP is referring to are not audiophiles, but online trolls with nothing better to do than to talk smack to strangers on the Internet. And spend their life whining rather than working and so will never experience truly high end gear. I would argue that the vast majority of audiophiles, especially Audiogon posters are actually quite civil. It's unfortunate that the loudest and rudest people are naturally heard the most. This makes it seem that the majority is this way when that is far from the truth. Enjoy your system and focus on the majority of people here who are good folks that just want to talk about their passion! Don't let the haters get you down! |
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