DarTZeels for sale

hardly a week goes by without someone posting a thread here why are there so many of a particular brand for sale!

The site posts classifieds and so people sell their gear for audiophile, economic, and impulsive reasons

Anyone who thinks dartZeel is not awesome sounding has synergy issues with other equipment, problems with the listening room itself, or suspect taste. This does not mean other great stuff is not out there which some may prefer but to malign this product is utter foolishness

2,5 times?

FX rate USD/EUR 4 years ago was different as well.

Where's all these Dartzeels for sale? Thought I might get a deal so took a look and only found one seller, selling his amp and pre-amp.

Does anyone remember DartZeel introductory price 4 years ago? Poweramp was 9999USD soon after around 16k, and now over 24k. Early adopters payed lot less money and they are earning now on their investments.

FM Acoustics??? If you think Dartzeel prices are in the stratosphere, FM will truly give you a nosebleed.

Rademaker,
What are some of those "Swiss made competitors"?

The answer to your question is quite simple, there are some other Swiss made competitors which outpeforms Dartzeel very easily, that could be the reason why they all want to sell the Dartzeel amplifiers

You're both right. If some relatively new and exclusive audio product is being sold at Audiogon as a used item it always give a feeling of uneasiness. It can implicate that the product is flawed or that it's dependability is questionable or that there is bad support from the distributor, and so on (although that might be not the case). It certainly has negative impact on the "image" of a certain product and/or company.

Chris

Good points Kurt Tank,here's maybe another:
Dartzeel is about to release an intergrated piece for those that might want a smaller footprint and at a lower price.

There are also plans for a monoblock at a higher power rating so these might add to the recent posts.
Azjake

My take on this is the following:

One, anyone who can afford the DarTZeel products has money, and lots of it. (And that is a good thing in my book. And yes, I wish I had more of it too!) People who have lots of money can afford to buy and sell equipment until they get (in their mind) the perfect sound. Or, they can afford to think of the buying and selling (and the auditioning of equipment) as their hobby. Hence one of the reasons why people who can afford to buy DarTZeel equipment can also afford to take the monetary loss when selling them.

Two, the DarTZeel amp (I've never heard the preamp, so I can't comment on that) is a wonderful amp. It has some of the best imaging and soundstaging characteristics that I've ever heard. (The mid-range is fantastic, especially for a solid state amp, and the treble is nearly as good.) However, it is a stereo amp, (rather than being a monoblock design), and it has somewhat limited power (@ 100 wpc), and therefore, it can run out of power driving inefficient speakers. Therefore people have tried it with the hope that it would work for them, and when they found that it didn't quite work, they sold it.

I would not read too much into the selling of even the best equipment. There are always people with lots of money around who like to experiment. Sometimes they buy the different units just to prove to themselves that what they already own is better than anything else out there.

My two cents worth anyway.

some early adapters on many new brands turn around and sell them once they miss what they had, or desire to move on.

The reason for the recent Phantom on Audiogon is that Bob Graham just came out with the Phantom Mark II so people are selling it to upgrade!

Have wondered myself about that as well as the recent lot of used Graham Phantom tonearms for sale.