The same question could be asked of Nordost and $40,000 cables.
what materials are used by the chinese to allow them to produce a Nordost Valhalla or Odin counterfeit they can sell for $50 and still make money
Counterfeit Chinese Cables
I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.
He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.
I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight.
First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable.
I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.
Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience.
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@tksteingraber oh you reject my reality and substitute your own! Spoken like a true counterfeit person! I am so glad you know it is okay to steel intellectual property! I am so glad it is fine to promote illegal products on Audiogon. I feel sorry for you. |
@bigtwin -- Amen! I hope this thread breaks the Audiogon record for "Thread With Most Replies", "Longest Running Thread", and "Thread That Caused The Most Pearls To Be Clutched". |
The Nordost Odin Golds that I bought off Aliexpress were $50. The real Nordost Odin Golds are $40,000. There was no intention to deceive or defraud me by the Chinese sellers of these cables, unless of course they either assumed I was incredibly/particularly stupid or I was in fact incredibly/particularly stupid. Same with the Accuphase stuff I bought for other reasons which I won't go into to keep my post brief. By definition then (at least the definition given above), I suppose they can no longer be considered counterfeit, at least not for the initial purchaser. The fraudulent behaviour would then fall upon a reseller of the cable who was misrepresenting it to deceive and defraud and profit. I propose we change the name of the thread to "Blatantly Obvious Reproduction Chinese Cables" to eliminate all the indignation and name calling. There ya go! Problem solved. Carry on...... |
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