Comparing these CD players with my gear...


Hi folks, 

I'm always messing around with CD players. A longtime audio friend of mine says I have a CD fetish... well, he's probably right. In a medium that is slowly dying, I'm still spinning discs more than ever. I stream too, but there still something awesome about taking a CD or LP and placing it in/onto a machine to play the sweet music we all love. 

Anyway, in my latest jaunt for something new, I've put together my latest list of players that have caught my eye for one reason of another. My gear consists of a Creek 4330SE integrated amp and Vandersteen 2C speakers. Cables are DH Labs Q-10's and Air Matrix interconnects. 

So what are your thoughts/impressions/comments on the synergies of the following CD players and how they would sound with my gear. I'm most curious about the Naim, Cambridge Audio and Myryad. 

Naim CD3.5
Cambridge Audio 840c
Myryad MCD600
Cal Audio Labs Icon mkII Power Boss
Marantz CD6006 (or CD6005)
Rotel RCD-1072




jsbach1685
Why not look at the analog section of the dac as well?
I think you’ll find all the players mentioned use dac data textbook I/V stage and output stages, which are just opamps.
Yes power supplies are, important and they all have very capable multi well regulated power supplies, the Cal has a beefier one than the rest, having what they call the Power Boss.


Cheers George
@charles1dad   +1   You are right on it.  The power supply and analog output stage is where it's really at as regards quality digital sound reproduction.  Modwright Instruments Inc. places the emphasis of their modifications right there.  The only enhancements to the DAC side of the player is enhancing the power supply to the DAC.  The results speak for themselves.
Hi Mgreen27,
Your comments/observations are true. Placing emphasis on the particular digital chip is short sighted. 10 CD players or DACs could use identical chip sets and sound completely different from each other . I’d pay more attention to the "quality" of the analog output stage and the power supply. These 2 factors in my experience are more influential and impactful in the overall sound quality.
Charles

"Looking at the dac converter chips, and transports/lasers, for Redbook cd replay.

 I'd go for the CAL Icon, it's got a very good Burr Brown PCM1702 Multibit chip, and the HDCD PMD100 filter chip."

Why not look at the analog section of the dac as well? It accounts for half of the component and has just as big of an effect on SQ as the digital half. Also, listing individual parts like the dac chip and filter shouldn't be relied on too heavily. The overall design is far more important. There's plenty of CD players that share the same parts, but sound completely different. 

NAIM AUDIO CD3.5  = TDA1305  CDM12.5 / VAM1205


CAMBRIDGE AUDIO azur840c  =   AD1955A  Sanyo SF-P101N


MYRYAD MCD600 = CS4396-KS  KSS-213C


California Audio Labs Icon mk II HDCD = 2 x PCM1702 – PMD100

Panasonic RAE0113Z



MARANTZ CD6005 = CS4398  Sanyo SF-P101N



ROTEL RCD-1072 = PCM1732  KSS-213C / KSS-213CL


Looking at the dac converter chips, and transports/lasers, for Redbook cd replay.

 I'd go for the CAL Icon, it's got a very good Burr Brown PCM1702 Multibit chip, and the HDCD PMD100 filter chip.


Cheers George  


Look for older Sony ES and Pioneer Elite DV series CD/SACD/DVD players. They have excellent transports and optical mechanisms, plus the use the highly regarded Burr-Brown DACs. As mentioned before they are overbuilt, heavy and great looking.
Cal Audio Labs Icon mkII Power Boss is about as good as the Oppo 103 -- but does not play SACDs, etc. just HDCD

I would blind test the newest Oppo against a few others in your own system - they will give you 2-5 weeks to do that.

Start working up a CD with your test music
You would do well to consider the Marantz SA8005. $1200 new. Great sounding, well-built stock player that can be upgraded by Dan Wright of Modwright Instruments Inc..  Their "Signature Truth" mod is amazing!

Personally, I have a preference for old Sony ES models from the 90's. They are built like a tank, 40 lbs plus..  Currently using an X779 ES as a transport.  It was purchased over 17 yrs ago for 350.00.  The Sony continues to run long after the Linn Karik bit the dust. 

I use the Hugo as the dac for the Sony with a Tara RSC digital cable  and Morrow Ma 3 interconnects.  This is redbook at its best.  

The Oppo 105D is unlistenable in comparison.  BTW the Sony is a better transport than the Oppo as well. 

jsbach1685-

consider a Creek or NAD BEE cd spinner to massage into your system.
Hi rhljazz, 

That's the thing... I'm fresh out of CD players right now. What would you recommend from the list, or not on the list? 
Keep the cd player you now have, as long as it has a digital out.  Add either the Chord Mojo listed on Agon for 449.00 or the Hugo for 1200.00.  You will not achieve better redbook than the Hugo unless you spring for a Dave.
I have a CD fetish too :)

I owned many CD players in the past and the best sound is with my new CD transport Cambridge Audio CXC connected to my Mcintosh DAC .
It’s better to invest in good DAC and a basic CD transport without inner DAC ,you’ll get the best result.

The Naim is over priced. The Cambridge is a solid player. Never heard the Myryad.

The Rotel is the best of the bunch. When I had mine, it was in a Creek/Vandersteen system. The cheapest CD player I have that bettered the Rotel is my Arcam 33.