Claude #2


I had Tammy pull down Claude #1.

Claude #1 was meant to be the start of a systematic discussion of my philosophical approach to audio, the components in my system, some of which go back 45 years and are 68 years old (recycling/refurbishing what works), how everything works synergistically in the hopes that would elicit observations on the same and shares from others about the templates they used in approaching the construction of their systems. I was going to have continued the discussion over the course of a dozen posts on discrete topics within the framework. Information that some of you might have found useful. I was looking forward to this. 

Instead, some of you hijacked that first post for personal Luddite-like rants about the evils of AI. AI is the very tool I used over the last week to answer questions I have not been able to get answered in those 45 years in even a quarter of the detail and/or leads that AI provided.

So, we end with Claude 2 instead of 12. 

This was so absurd and at the age of 70, I just don’t have the time for this nonsense. So, I am done with audiogon. I’m sure that makes some of you happy: the conversation sandbox is returned to your preferred configuration, whatever that may be. 

I will instead post my thoughts at theaudioatticvinylsundays.com. Eventually. I am starting a substack and that has my priority right now. 

I will miss some of you, who are thoughtful, intelligent and kind. You know who you are. 

adios. 

unreceivedogma

Thanks for your reply...

I will look at your substack...

I am sure i will learn a lot you are one of the few consumers here  who was serious about acoustics...

My deepest respect....

It was an interesting thread, so I’m sorry you had it deleted.

I understand your enthusiasm @unreceivedogma  for AI and certainly understand that it’s an inevitable part of our future - and even the present. But I also think it’s misguided to characterize its cynics or doubters as Luddites. Questioning technology and how we use it is the smart thing to do. It’s not the same as rejecting it.

@unreceivedogma I quite enjoyed your Claude #1 post.  As a matter of fact your experience inspired me to try AI.  For me, it works like a much improved search engine and is a  more efficient way to find an answer.  I have always enjoyed your posts and your intellect.  Please reconsider leaving this forum.  Don't let a few a*hole ingrates spoil the experience for yourself and many others.  Thanks.  

I asked what to do about Luddites. Answer below.  Then it cut my Tether and now I am drifting away in space.  I feel like I am  in some kind of high concept movie :  2025:  an AI Odyssey. 
 

To address the concerns and perspectives of modern-day Luddites, it is essential to understand their historical context and the motivations behind their actions. The term "Luddite" has evolved to describe individuals who resist technological change, often viewed negatively as anti-progress. However, the original Luddites were skilled workers advocating for their rights in the face of industrialization that threatened their livelihoods. Here are some strategies to engage with Luddite sentiments constructively:

### 1. **Understand the Historical Context**
   - The Luddites were not against technology itself but opposed the way it was used to exploit workers and degrade working conditions. They sought fair wages and job security in an era of rapid industrial change [[1]](https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/rethinking-the-luddites-in-the-age-of-ai)[[3]](https://www.thoughtlab.com/blog/the-luddites-how-we-get-them-wrong-and-the-true-lessons/).
   - Recognizing that their actions were a form of protest against economic injustice can help frame current discussions about technology and labor rights.

### 2. **Promote Fair Labor Practices**
   - Advocate for policies that ensure fair wages and working conditions in industries affected by automation and AI. This includes supporting labor unions and legislation that protects workers' rights [[2]](https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/we-should-all-be-luddites-now)[[3]](https://www.thoughtlab.com/blog/the-luddites-how-we-get-them-wrong-and-the-true-lessons/).
   - Encourage companies to adopt ethical practices that prioritize employee welfare over profit maximization.

### 3. **Encourage Dialogue About Technology**
   - Foster open discussions about the implications of new technologies. This includes addressing concerns about job displacement and the quality of work life in automated environments [[2]](https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/we-should-all-be-luddites-now)[[3]](https://www.thoughtlab.com/blog/the-luddites-how-we-get-them-wrong-and-the-true-lessons/).
   - Create forums where workers can express their fears and suggestions regarding technological advancements, ensuring their voices are heard in the decision-making process.

### 4. **Educate on Technology's Role**
   - Provide education on how technology can be a tool for empowerment rather than a threat. Highlight examples where technology has improved working conditions or created new job opportunities [[3]](https://www.thoughtlab.com/blog/the-luddites-how-we-get-them-wrong-and-the-true-lessons/).
   - Encourage critical thinking about technology's impact on society, prompting individuals to question how it shapes their lives and work.

### 5. **Support Responsible Innovation**
   - Advocate for responsible innovation that considers the social implications of new technologies. This includes promoting technologies that enhance human capabilities rather than replace them [[1]](https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/rethinking-the-luddites-in-the-age-of-ai)[[2]](https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/we-should-all-be-luddites-now).
   - Encourage businesses to engage with communities to understand their needs and concerns regarding technological changes.

### 6. **Emphasize the Importance of Balance**
   - Encourage a balanced approach to technology use, where individuals can enjoy its benefits while maintaining control over their lives. This might involve setting boundaries on technology use and promoting offline activities [[3]](https://www.thoughtlab.com/blog/the-luddites-how-we-get-them-wrong-and-the-true-lessons/).
   - Highlight the importance of mental health and well-being in a tech-driven world, advocating for time away from screens and digital devices.

By adopting these strategies, we can create a more inclusive dialogue around technology and its impact on society, addressing the concerns of those who identify with Luddite principles while promoting a vision of progress that benefits everyone.

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Learn more:
1. [Rethinking the Luddites in the Age of A.I. | The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/rethinking-the-luddites-in-the-age-of-ai)
2. [We should all be Luddites now - by Dave Karpf](https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/we-should-all-be-luddites-now)
3. [The Luddites, How We Get Them Wrong, and The True Lessons They Offer. | ThoughtLab](https://www.thoughtlab.com/blog/the-luddites-how-we-get-them-wrong-and-the-true-lessons/)

I've been gone since I posted on the Claude #1 thread and thought it was a great thread, for a change. I've been busy since and to see it taken down by those that fall for the (evil) hype is silly, but then there are some pretty silly people around here. 

As I said earlier, AI Overview on Apple is fantastic as it just condenses info down to bullet points with links to the article(s). What more could someone ask for?

All the best,
Nonoise