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My favorite recording of Prokofiev’s homage to Haydn. Wonderful performance. For an orchestra to play with this level of cohesion without a conductor is miraculous. |
Chamber Orchestra:
The perfect size.
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Yes, of course, Orpheus is a chamber orchestra. However, in this case…… Note that Prokofiev’s “Classical Symphony” is scored for double winds (two flutes, two oboes, two clarinets, two bassoons), two horns, two trumpets, timpani and strings. They kept the number of strings to a minimum, but otherwise pretty much a full size orchestra by most standards. “Romeo and Juliet”. One of my very favorite works and an orchestration tour de force. It features throughout and fairly prominently a tenor saxophone . Unusual for a major orchestral work where typically the use of saxophone, when used at all, is very limited. An interesting factoid which I think may have significance and goes to the point of your quoted historical “Notes” is the fact Prokofiev borrowed (reused) some of his own music from his “Classical Symphony”for use in the later score of “Romeo”. In a sense, one could say that it ties together the moves from Russia to America and then back to Russia. Quiz: what is that borrowed music that can be heard in both works? Hint: it is not one of the movements that you posted, but is one of the movements in the link below. You posted a fine performance, but as far as I’m concerned no one understands this music like the great Russian conductors and great Russian orchestras. This is my favorite recording of “Romeo”: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nbUBb_5tVFMfsoMmxEae3BW1TD3ktdigcBtw, the link above is highlights from the recording of the complete ballet by Gergiev/Kirov. Couldn’t find the complete on YouTube. |
Two conductors with a particular affinity for this magnificent work are Loren Maazel in his fabled recording on Decca and Ashkenazy with his performances on Decca and Exton. |
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Sergei Prokofiev VIOLIN CONCERTO Maxim Vengerov (violin) London Symphony Orchestra Mstislav Rostropovich Teldec 1994 Notes:"When Stalin launched his second major attack against the composers of the Soviet Union in February 1948, two of the nation's most prominent composers were among the main defendants. One sat in the front row, the other in the last. In the front row was Sergei Prokofiev. Way in the back sat a nervous Dmitri Shostakovich, who left the room every few minutes to smoke a cigarette. No scene could better characterize the two contemporaries. The one self-confident, the other apprehensive..."
Prokofiev: Violin Concerto No.1 in D major Op.19
I Andantino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jWNWfMzJQY
II Scherzo - Vivacissimo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9uN9IeEifU
III Moderato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDIgXyCcR0Cheers |
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Shostakovich:
24 Preludes and Fugues for Piano.
i prefer Scherbakov’s recording, both the playing and the sound quality, over Jarrett’s. I haven’t heard Nikolayeva’s or any others. |
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IMO Prokofiev is bested by only Sibelius and Carl Nielsen among modern composers .
IMO, his best " Romeo and Juliet" is the Previn /LSO outing is the greatest. Most of all he did with the LSO is never been bested.
Celbidache did a stunning Classical and his 3rd Piano Concerto with the Berliners but is hard to find on Urania. Ormandy also did an fine 1and 5 .As did Thomes Sandard with Royal Scottish on Linn . Valery Gergiev had the Russian touch on many labels and is can’t miss on all of them.
My fav piece is his his 6th . Mravinsky’’LenPoPraga/67 my best outing. Nothing wrong with Ormandy's 6 either.
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Sound familiar?: More than familiar. I think David Hurwitz talked about this also, using the same music in both pieces. Thanks Cheers |
My dear friend Len , so good to see you in print again ( I thought you were in the huff with us. Right enough I haven't been contributing either and it's been too hot for headphones as well. Thank goodness it's piddling with rain here now as I can get back to my beloved Bach and I am as happy as a wee pig in s**t just now listening to Maria Jiao Pires playing the masters' Partita No 1 in B Flat Major. What a wonderful pianist she is, playing as if she's spinning gold. I hope you are keeping ok Len." Lang may yer lum reek." Jim. |
Scotia ain Jim ! I'll have to check that B Flat Major .Lang may yer lum reek as well . |
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I'm so glad you liked Pires playing the Bach Len, she really is a wonderful pianist. Len I can see why you like Tureck so much measured ,crystalline and so so accurate , not a note or inflection out of place anywhere. I am going to keep that Goldberg close for a long time to come. Has anyone heard Zimmerman's new traversal of the Beethoven piano Concertos. Absolute magic and a wonderful accompaniment from Sir Simon Rattle , all the slow movements are measured and a luminous quality pervades the whole set . Zimmerman as usual is superlative in his accuracy and phrasing and his playing is astonishing. The main movements are brisk and his runs are super even with not a note clipped or out of place. The recordings are full and enjoyable if maybe a bit on the side but you do hear everything that's going on. |
So glad you like Tureck Jim, Canada got a jewel in her !
Canada is opening american border entry at midnight today after 18 months of no go. US did not do so , A friend in Montreal says stay away, average joe is angry when Canada is better vacined.
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Sergei Rachmaninoff / Ludwig van Beethoven PIANO CONCERTOS Van Cliburn (piano) Chicago Symphony Orchestra Fritz Reiner RCA Victor Living Stereo 1961, 1962, 1994 Notes:"E-flat major was to Beethoven a heroic key by the evidence of the "Eroica" Symphony which has something of the same proud spirit. Beethoven seems to have been possessed by this tonality in 1809, the year of the concerto, for the piano sonata, Op. 81a, and the so-called harp quartet (op.74), both in E flat, were also composed in this year. It was a year of war; French troops occupied Vienna, and the Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte made his headquarters in the palace of
Schönbrunn. These outward events had no effect upon the artist Beethoven and his seclusive domain of tones, except to annoy him and impede his work."
Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 18
I. Moderato - Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUrotc3cj-s
II. Adagio sostenuto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv3NfWt6LzM
III. Allegro scherzando
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5GbS96-_xwBeethoven: Piano Concerto No.5 in E-flat, Op.73 "Emperor" I. Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5a2TmzBxuU
II. Adagio un poco mosso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwXC4H60ZR8
III. Rondo - Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeGBUHYYWTICheers |
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re Bach Goldberg VariationsThis must be one of the most recorded piano compositions.I have recordings by:
gregory sokolov
angela hewitt
helmut walcha
andre gavrilov
keith jarrett
glenn gould
murrary perahia
beatrice rana
tatiana nicolayeva
nicholas angelich
vladmir feltsman
gustav leonhardt
rosalyn tureck
zhu xiao-mei
peter serkin
igor levit
stephen hough
andrei gavrilov
maria yudina
maria tipo
jeremy denk
ekaterina dershavina I freely admit that if you played one of these recordings, I could not tell you which pianist was playing. I cannot name a "favorite".
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Sergei Rachmaninoff
SYMPHONIC DANCES FOR 2 PIANOS Emanuel Ax (piano) Yefim Bronfman (piano) Sony Classical 2001 Notes: "The fact that Sergei Rachmaninoff was born in the St. Petersburg of czarist Russia and died amidst the palm trees of Beverly Hills, California is curiously apt. Rachmaninoff was what we like to call a "transitional figure"--one foot planted deep in Romanticism, the other reaching toward a somewhat idiosyncratic modernity, making the leap from almost-medieval Russia under the Czar to the flamboyant liberty of the Hollywood Hills."
Symphonic Dances, Op. 45 (Version for 2 Pianos)
I. Non allegro "Noon"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjhEPbjtJIU
II. Andante con moto "Twilight"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_b5tJEKps
III. Lento assai - Allegro vivace "Midnight"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ORC19UnVUwCheers |
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Here's another pianist that I hadn't heard before: Rafal Blechacz.
I found his complete Chopin preludes very compelling.
I think there's a complete set of nocturnes in the pipeline.
Anyone else heard him? |
Right now I'm enjoying the absolute heck out of a Primephonic stream of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra with Ormandy and the Philly. Spacious. Performed with energy, wit and a whole lot of love. Maybe a hair bright, but then again the recording may just have been made in a lively venue, |
Serge Rachmaninoff / Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky PIANO CONCERTOS Martha Argerich (piano) RSO Berlin Riccardo Chailly Symphonie-Orchester Des Bayerischen Rundfunks Kirill Kondrashin Philips Classics 1995 Notes: "...But perhaps the last word should go to the late Eugene List who, after referring to Argerich's capacity, even as a child, to spin off octaves like single notes, went on to salute her as, quite simply, "one of nature's happenings."
Rachmaninov: Piano concerto No. 3 in D minor, Op. 30https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgMUgmri1JM
Tchaikovsky: Piano concerto No. 1 in B flat minor, Op.23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHMsrELwaj4Cheers |
How a baroque violin concerto should sound . Absolutely magnificent by Midori Sieiler and the Bremer Barockorchester ! https://youtu.be/b42vwZmG6k0 |
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You don't hear a lot from Midori nowadays Len but she does have a wonderful tone though doesn't she. |
Yes , but this is not the American - Japanese .one but a Bavarian- Japanese one who who grew up in Salzburg . Her tone is nice but just control of her instrument is unreal ! She is the Queen of original violin in Europe .
Type up her Bio , it is hard to believe the amount she has done , one of the best I ever read on wiki . If I ever get back to Germany {unlikely) I would go a long way to hear her.
Bremen is the most blue collar of all the German cities , a wonder it has such a good little band .
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Maurice Ravel BOLERO - DAPHNIS ET CHLOE Orchestre de Paris Daniel Barenboim DG 1982 Notes: "The bolero was originally a brisk Spanish dance, and Chopin's op.19 retains this characteristic tempo. Ravel's piece is much slower than brisk and it may be regarded in two lights -- as a study in orchestration and an essay in the concept of crescendo." "The ballet Daphnis et Chole, which is probably Ravels's masterpiece, was commissioned by Diaghilev..... Ravel started work on it at least three years before the first performance, which was on 8 June 1912. The two orchestral suites, which contain the finest of the music, can be enjoyed without any reference to the scenario of the ballet."
Boléro, M. 81
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI73PK06MQc
Daphnis et Chloé Suite No.2, M. 57b
1. Lever du jour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_0fcMeJ-m0
2. Pantomime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isddTbtxg6o
3. Danse générale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E99aRfA-bcsCheers |
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Maurice Ravel THE PIANO CONCERTOS
Pascal Rogé
(piano) Orchestre Symphonique de Montreal Charles Dutoit Decca 1983 Notes: "The piano was Ravel’s instrument. When the G major concerto’s first performance was announced for Amsterdam in March 1931, the composer intended to be the soloist. But illness delayed the work’s completion, and by the time of the postponed premiere on 14 January 1932 in Paris, Ravel decided--despite many hours spent practising the studies of Chopin and Liszt -- that the task was beyond him. Accordingly, he asked Marguerite Long to fill the breach and dedicated the concerto to her." Ravel: Piano Concerto in G Major, M. 83 1. Allegramente https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCKzFcE5CQ 2. Adagio assai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_e4oBU-RoM 3. Presto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOK3Y2oB96YCheers |
"’Bach is a terminal point. Nothing comes from him,,every thing merely leads up to him."
Albert Schweitzer
On my monthly run to Barnes and Noble for my Gramophone. I found an absolute treasure , ":Gramophone Presents J.S. Bach"
A 98 page book with small print that made much of it a 200 pager ! So much on everything Bach in the manner you would expect from the British Classical Bible, very through, unreal so .
Can not even begin to say anything other than for a Bach lover the $25 bucks USA is a gift . |
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Rachmaninov, music for two pianos: Suite No. 1, Suite No. 2, Symphonic Dances (arranged).
Martha Argerich & Alexandre Rabinovitch.
Wow! Alternatingly magical and sensational!
The best performance+recording I've heard in a while. |
twoleftears,
Thanks so much for the recommendation It’s just as you describe. What musicianship!
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