Ceramic insulator cone under phono stage shocker!


I have used small ceramic insulator cones underneath my phono stage for quite some time.
Previous phono was a Gold note ph10 and it did not make ANY audible difference I could detect which way up the cones were so I had left them cone upwards.

When I changed my phono to a Manley Chinook I just left the cones same way.
This afternoon I decided to flip them over so cone down just to see.

I honestly could not and cannot believe the difference!
I may have lost a smidge of low bass but everywhere else is improved in spades.
Much more detail, resolution, air, imaging, dynamics.
Just completely shocking how much better a small change has made.

But I am perplexed why such a huge change on the Chinook where I noted nothing on the ph10?

Any theories here?
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Had time this afternoon to experiment with the Cocobolo pen blanks that arrived while I was working in the Pacific Northwest.

Still prefer my $1 ex ham radio ceramic cones points down under phono, SUT , CD transport and Jolida Black Ice bass expander.

Cannot really tell much difference between the African Blackwood or Cocobolo under the reel to reel player tbh.

Maybe I will take up pen turning.........
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I am just preferring the sq with my overly expensive ex ham radio ceramic cones for now.
Still have all the blanks and will carry on experimenting at my leisure.
This is kind of what always happens. Trying to save a few bucks. Penny smart and pound foolish. The oldest audiophile game in town. No offense.
Not sure what you are getting at there Geoff.

I have a massive $22 invested in .... 22 ceramic cones that are working out VERY well for myself in my system....
I'm ALWAYS a happy camper Geoff but....
I MAY try your springs under the phono just because......
It's good to have a week at home to experiment although the reason for it not so good ... Lol.
So the Cocobolo pen stock worked out really well under the zx7 tape deck.
What I find interesting here is that both tape decks ( Cassette and r2r) appeared to benefit from the exotic wood stock.
Both exhibited similar apparent gain in volume and depth of bass with better dynamics all round.
No idea what that is telling me at all.
@uberwaltz,

I had an idea a while back I thought about trying, just thought I'd share. If you have a high quality wood store/shop in your area, have them shape a half circle piece of (moulding)(flat on the other side) a little larger than the wooded dowel you'll place in it. These pieces would be about 2" long. The dowel should be of smaller diameter than the channel cut into the "moulding" for movement. I suspect this would sound even better than just blanks. It would be an inexpensive enough project to try anyway.
Just one Mpingo disc in the room will change your whole way of looking at wood and looking at the world. And get this. The Mpingo disc is only 1 1/2โ€ in diameter. Hel-loo! Imagine my embarrassment when I was with Mapleshade at the show in 1997 with Mapleshade and the Mpingo disc I had knocked off was sitting right there on the floor in plain view near the speakers where Pierre put it when who should come walking through the door but the two dudes from Shun Mook. Knocking off the Mpingo disc is no easy chore, donโ€™t try this at home kids, stay in school, for a number of reasons, including but not limited to the fact itโ€™s directional in the azimuthal direction as well as top to bottom.
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I've had a set for a couple of years. I hadn't had a chance yet to use them under a component that passes the music signal. Pretty neat design as it allows lots of flexibility. One thing I noticed in my particular use was the springs' slight movement inside the acrylic top/bottom plates can have a slight audible noise. I had always thought of making new ones out of Maple. The price is low enough to be a no-brainer if you like to experiment with such things.
Thx Steve.
Yes you are correct that most definitely the price is right!
I thought it looked like an excellent design especially at the price but just wondered if anyone had tried them.
Might buy a couple sets just to experiment.
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