I am thinking about upgrading my Class D amps to Class A tube amps. As I will be new to tube amps can they amps be left on all the time? My TV is wired thorugh my system so the amps need to be active at all times.
I also have the butler audio amp which replaced the most expensive Classe amp. I like the butler better. I am using electrostatic speakers all around with a JL audio sub.
They were about $4,000. Google them. I am using them with planars (Analysis Audio Omega) and leave them always on. I did not open them, but I think they have one 6H30 each. Incredible sound. They are made by the Analysis Audio distributor
Whart- Thank you very much for such a detailed response.
I run my Cable Box and a Modified OPPO 95 to my ARCAM FMJ888 via HDMI for movies. So far I am very pleased with the results. I just bought a CARY 7.250 7 channel amp for multi channel listening. I decided to skip Tubes after reading opinions on this post. Plus I got a great deal on this Amp.
For two channel listening I go analogue from the OPPO to the ARCAM and select “direct” and the sound through my Dragons is very pleasing and again I am very happy.
I guess I could look into upgrading my mono Dragons to Hybrids when things settle down. That should be fun.
I like tubes in home theatre, but only with 90 db or higher efficency speakers. I have also used tubes just for the center channel to good effect.....input sensitivity was matched at 100k. I like to bi-amp as well with tubes driving the top end, SS on the bottom. After a few tube changes though, the Bryston amps sound very good again. Thus, I have two HT systems, one for music DVD's, the other for movies. I don't need tubes to hear, a car crash or gun shots. Do the right thing.....two systems. Jallen
Look into the Butler Audio TDB (Tube Driver Blue) 5150, 5 channels of 150 wpc with a 6SN7 tube (run very conservatively) driving SS output. I leave mine on all the time - about 6 years now - with no heat issues. Gives a nice blend of tube harmonics and SS bass grunt.
I was trying to read through your system list and figure out what you are using as a preamp for music, is it the ARCAM processor? I'm not in any way dissing ARCAM, or theatre processors in general (well, maybe a little bit on the latter), but if you wanted to try see what effect some tubes would have in your system, a tube preamp or line stage might be the ticket. I never tried to integrate my home theatre and music systems, so i'm not sure what that would entail. I also found that multichannel audio can be very good for some material, less so for other music. So, I'm not voting against having multiple channels in your music system. However, you might have some fun trying your set up (it looks like you could do this as an experiment), by just hooking up a simpler two channel system, temporarily, and using a really good line stage? (This may go against the grain of running digital sources 'directly' into the amps, but if I am reading your system correctly, you aren't doing that anyway, you are running your sources through the processor?)
I have a pair of Class D hybrid monos, from Arion Audio (500w pc) in my stereo-HT system. Believe it or not, they replaced a BAT VK600SE (a formidable amp). I leave them on all the time and the sound is out of this world.
Actually a hybrid would be much less of a problem for continuous operation . Usually the hybrid is only one 9 pin dual triode miniature tube. I think that they rarely do much in terms of delivering the tube magic but others disagree. These small tubes run at much lower voltages use little energy and last a long while (10,000 hrs some claim). Still all SS maybe your best bet in terms of sound quality which is obviously your goal .
At one point, I was using all ARC tube amps for my home theatre. (I didn't leave them on all the time, of course). The system consisted of a very old Dual 75a that I have owned since the early 70's, a Classic 60 that was relatively new, and a large monoblock that I purpose bought to use as a center channel amp. (the woofers, a pair of velodynes, were self-powered). The system sounded great with Snell speakers, but it was HOT after a few hours in the viewing room. I have slowly migrated away, first switching to solid state for the rears, then eventually all channels. I now use a large McIntosh multi-channel amp with oodles of power, and, at least for home theatre use, it sounds great. (My music system is not part of this theater system). I still use tubes in the audio system, but that's another story.
Elizabeth is correct. Although I'm using a large tube amp in my 2 channel rig with HT pass through, I would never leave it on 24/7 for safety reasons. Also electrical costs and pointless tube degradation play a factor. Go SS for this project.
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