Do you find that the XLO burnin CD track9 repeat works for you?
Cable Cooking/Burnin
I read this on KLE Innovations, http://kleinnovations.com/kle-innovations-klei-products/essence-gzero-ic/, and wondered what your thoughts on Cable Cooking/Burnin might be ...
Burnin/Cooking Time
We believe that the Burnin/Cooking process can be thought of as an extension/finishing of the Annealing process.
This is a practice that can dramatically/drastically improve performance and has been gaining acceptance from HiFi enthusiasts :) Usually, any listener will be able to identify a marked change/improvement in audio component performance within the first 100 or more hours of use, whether it be a cable, connector, component or loudspeaker.
Burnin/Cooking time is the process whereby electrical signal/charge gradually settles/corrects/aligns dielectric, electromagnetic, and material (metal and non-metal) issues that occur/result during the construction process. These aspects are often and usually found in Cables/Connectors and usually results in a brittle, bright, muddy, non-cohesive sound that lacks the Detail, Resolution, Timbre, PRaT, Harmonic Texture, Organicness, Naturalness, and Staging which is desired for music reproduction. Burnin/Cooking Time improves the way that signal passes through the conductors and dielectrics and it is the resulting changes in signal transmission that refines and defines the performance of the audio cables.
While it is most important to implement Burnin/Cooking Time, upon purchase, routine maintenance is always important, also. Cables/Connectors that have not been played, or left unused, for long/prolonged periods of time, may become stagnant and again require Burnin/Cooking Time.
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I have an AudioDHarma Cable Cooker and would not be without it. I recondition all my cables and interconnects every 4 to 6 months. It is easy to hear the improvement even after multiple conditionings. In addition the AudioDharma manufacturer now has an add on that runs the signal thru the ground wire of your power cords. This gives a further benefit to the sound. I believe it has saved me money in the long run. I do not chase after new cables like I used to- a conditioned cable just sounds so much better. |
No - just a DIY cooker I found on the web When I said... "I've found that Cooking gets you to end-state" much quicker" That was simply comparing the time it took the cooked gZero cables I've tried to reach end-state vs. the uncooked gZero cables. I don't have a cooker - but this one looks pretty simple - and I already have half the components leftover from an old 12v power supply project. Regards... |
Here's a purpose built DIY unit... http://desirableaudio.blogspot.ca/2009/01/diy-kable-kooker.htmlWilliewonka, is this your cable cooker? |
Interesting Williewonka :) |
Oh, so now we're justifying audio purchases? Interesting. You mean like Shakti Hollograms, Franck Chang silver and platinum little tiny bowls, Lessloss Blackbody, SteinMusic Harmonizer, and Walker Audio Black Diamond doo dad for stereo cartridges? Or for that matter the $102,000 Walker Audio turntable. |
Well since no one is bothering to ask about the Elephant in the room - I will. Why would any audiophile with one, maybe two systems need a cable cooker? fwiw Any new wires/cables I buy are burned in for me by the Retailer-Seller for a nominal fee ? So just curious... @Yping your thread did however prompt me to ask Take Five Audio about this who have built some of my cables. (Just a happy customer of theirs) So I provide this info. "We have a couple of the Audiodharma Cable Cookers, our old one is the original design and we have another which is the latest model of the "Standard Plus". They do a good job on the cables. I think you would need several complex systems to justify the cost of a cooker because there is a limit to how often you can condition them and still hear the difference." - - |
Here's a purpose built DIY unit... http://desirableaudio.blogspot.ca/2009/01/diy-kable-kooker.html Regards... |
Yping, in the last couple of years I have tried "cooked" and "uncooked" cables. I've found that Cooking gets you to "end-state" much quicker, but actual usage still refines the SQ of cooked cables even further. - E.g. even a well cooked cable sounded much better after 100 hours of playing - but it would have taken in excess of 500 hours to attain the same SQ without cooking :-( Most cookers do a very good job, so rather than trying to figure out which cooking method is better, may I suggest you just pick one. The simple "plug-and-cook" solution sounds the easiest process to me - much less fussing The time you will save allows you more time to enjoy the music :-) Regards |
I use the burn in track of the XLO test CD which can be put on REPEAT and played continuous for say one day or two days or a week or more. At any point along the way one can audition the system to see how the sound is coming along. In the case of the XLO burn in track the recommendation is for continuous break in as opposed to start/stop. TG Audio used to burn in their cables which are VERY GOOD for around one month prior to shipping to customers. |
The following has been suggested, what do you think...
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Yping - I'm certainly a believer in (what I call) a "settling in" process for cables and electronic audio components in general. For cables, I do think this can be accelerated by various burn-in or cooking treatments. I'm not convinced, however, that such treatments provide a permanent benefit that cannot be matched by simple time in use (albeit, over much longer times). This latter statement is my O-pinion. Complicating evaluation of "time in use" as an alternative to cable burn-in or cooking treatments is the contribution our ear's acclimation makes to the perceived benefit. |
