Brain Farts w/ Roon Nucleus


I have an original Roon Nucleus with a SSD drive in it.  Around 3GB of music.  Together with Tidal, Roon tells me that I have 2039 Artists, 4312 Albums, 61239 tracks, and 136 composers.  That is likely more than most users, but not as many as some of you, so I have read.
 

On a fairly regular basis, Roon has these brain farts moments, lasting 10-15 minutes, where I get the twirling Roon Icon and the system is shut down from playback.  It always eventually comes back. I don’t know the technical term, but I think it is a resort, reorganizing, re-something to the whole data base of music.  It always happens at the most inopportune time. Roon online forum has never come clean for me with an answer/fix.

I have revamped my Ethernet cabling and both the Roon Nucleus and the DAC/Streamer are mainlined, so I know it is not network drop outs.

I’ve read that others have had a similar problem, but never read a solution.  I have been looking into several angles to stop this.  (1) Upgrade to the Roon Nucleus Titan. (2) Checking out to see if some other Roon Ready Server is a better functioning piece of equipment, like the Innous.

I have two DACs/Servers in the house - BlueSound & dCS Lina - and they both have the same brain farts with Roon.  

I really like the functionality of Roon on the Nucleus.  My issue is not sound quality of Roon, it is the performance.  I must admit, that in all of my reading I have not been able to compare the functionality of a Roon Ready Innous vs. Roon Nucleus, or any other Streamer that folks mention here on the forum.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

pgaulke60

I would suggest the following 

In Roon settings go to Library tab and check your settings for Background Audio Analysis Speed (mine is set to Throttled) and On-Demand Audio Analysis Speed (mine is set to Off). 
 

Try same settings as I have. Or even set the Background audio analysis speed to Off. see if the issue goes away. 
Also try to disable any DSP. Do the changes one at a time.  

The OP is probably not very technically savvy, but if he were I'd encourage him to open up a shell to his Nucleus and leave top running.  See what takes time when things slow down, and how much RAM is being consumed.  

Also, be aware that solid state drives can and DO fail, sometimes without warning.  Well, the signs are there if you know how to look at the S.M.A.R.T. disk stats but unfortunately few of us ever do and it's only when a system starts to misbehave that we wonder what's going on.   Your symptoms may be more related to a disk being bad than anything else, but hard to tell without checking.  

Make sure you have a solid backup of all your music. 

I read about these issues from time to time and though I've been a Roon user for quite a few years, I must say that I have never once had this happen. If I can't connect to my Roon server then I know I need to reboot my router. That's the problem 100% of the time. For me, that is, I'm sure that's not the answer to the OP's issues.

I think audphile 1 has some good suggestions to try. Also, if you've never seen this, there may be something buried here that could help; https://www.head-fi.org/threads/roon-optimization-guide-for-increased-sound-quality.968792/

My experience with Roon (the company) and it's Nucleus + was a nightmare.

A terrible company with easily the worst support model for a product that users pay for.

Thankfully I found Innuos Sense.

Zero issues and the company provides top notch support if it is needed.

I've had Innuos engineered log into my system and fix/tweak things within 3 days of issue being reported.

It all amounts to me as ...

Work to get off Room. 

You will be happier

To actually answer one of your questions ..

I find Innuos Sense as functional as Roon in every way -cept maybe artist/bio stuff